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The Epoch Times article[0] cites an article by Apollo News[0]. I'm not particularly familiar with either. This appears to be Mr Vierhous's X handle: https://x.c

The Epoch Times article[0] cites an article by Apollo News[0]. I'm not particularly familiar with either. This appears to be Mr Vierhous's X handle: https://x.com/ThomasVierhaus https://x.com/ThomasVierhaus, which includes a retweet of a tweet by someone claiming to be handling this case on Thomas' behalf and this tweet[2] which appears to show the citation he was served. If it's a ruse, they've gone through a lot of trouble. [0] https://archive.is/mDQ3u https://archive.is/mDQ3u [1] https://archive.is/SEyzo https://archive.is/SEyzo [2] https://x.com/ThomasVierhaus/status/1957345154420895946 https://x.com/ThomasVierhaus/status/1957345154420895946

jihadjihad 1y ago
> If it's a ruse, they've gone through a lot of trouble. Apollo News [1] has a Controversies section on the German Wikipedia in which the same Green Party member mentioned in TFA whom the "German Economist" allegedly posted on X about (Katrin Göring-Eckardt) had statements which "were 'distorted beyond recognition' in a TikTok video by Apollo News." I'd say that their entire business is going through trouble for ruses like these, and that therefore they are not worth our time. 1: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_News https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_News
- hitekker 1y ago
  Apollo News sounds like German Fox News. But it looks like the citation behind "distorted beyond recognition" is itself misleading. The fact-check admits: > At a discussion event, Green Party politician Katrin Göring-Eckardt advocated for networks where East Germans who have problems with right-wing relatives can register The rest of the cited fact check searches for technicalities to diminish Apollo's conclusion that the politician wanted "denunciation of relatives". In my reckoning, the politician's rhetoric was not "distorted beyond recognition"; rather, the consequence of their rhetoric was highlighted. IMHO, I wouldn't dismiss semi-reputable news sources so easily. I think it's valuable to hear the other side (https://ground.news/blindspot https://ground.news/blindspot) especially when the fact-checkers/media on my side prefer that I just swallow the party line.
- marcusverus 1y ago
  It's good to be skeptical, but if you ignored every news sites that had ever been accused of a single act of deceptive wording, there wouldn't be any left to read from! Having read about the controversy in question, it's hard to agree that her words were 'distorted beyond recognition'. She advocated for government centers where Germans could go to talk to a government employee about mean right-wingers, and be provided with propaganda materials (literally, she suggested these centers should provide information on how to respond to right-wing slogans) to counteract the reactionaries. Apollo News characterized this as akin to advocating for the East German practice of denunciation, in which people could report wrong-think to the Stasi. Not much of a leap!

jihadjihad 1y ago

> If it's a ruse, they've gone through a lot of trouble. Apollo News [1] has a Controversies section on the German Wikipedia in which the same Green Party member mentioned in TFA whom the "German Economist" allegedly posted on X about (Katrin Göring-Eckardt) had statements which "were 'distorted beyond recognition' in a TikTok video by Apollo News." I'd say that their entire business is going through trouble for ruses like these, and that therefore they are not worth our time. 1: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_News https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_News

hitekker 1y ago
Apollo News sounds like German Fox News. But it looks like the citation behind "distorted beyond recognition" is itself misleading. The fact-check admits: > At a discussion event, Green Party politician Katrin Göring-Eckardt advocated for networks where East Germans who have problems with right-wing relatives can register The rest of the cited fact check searches for technicalities to diminish Apollo's conclusion that the politician wanted "denunciation of relatives". In my reckoning, the politician's rhetoric was not "distorted beyond recognition"; rather, the consequence of their rhetoric was highlighted. IMHO, I wouldn't dismiss semi-reputable news sources so easily. I think it's valuable to hear the other side (https://ground.news/blindspot https://ground.news/blindspot) especially when the fact-checkers/media on my side prefer that I just swallow the party line.
marcusverus 1y ago
It's good to be skeptical, but if you ignored every news sites that had ever been accused of a single act of deceptive wording, there wouldn't be any left to read from! Having read about the controversy in question, it's hard to agree that her words were 'distorted beyond recognition'. She advocated for government centers where Germans could go to talk to a government employee about mean right-wingers, and be provided with propaganda materials (literally, she suggested these centers should provide information on how to respond to right-wing slogans) to counteract the reactionaries. Apollo News characterized this as akin to advocating for the East German practice of denunciation, in which people could report wrong-think to the Stasi. Not much of a leap!