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Sig's response to this clusterfuck will be studied in PR classes for years to come. They started with a wildly overagressive social media campaign and have gene
by Hasz 1y ago
Sig's response to this clusterfuck will be studied in PR classes for years to come. They started with a wildly overagressive social media campaign and have generally refused to admit there is a problem, and are banning, suing and generally trying to cover the whole thing up.
Independent testing at the local, state and federal level acknowledge you can fire a P320 without pulling the trigger. Making sure the gun only fires when the trigger is pulled is requirement #1, #2 and #3 for any gun.
- jjani 1y ago> Making sure the gun only fires when the trigger is pulled is requirement #1, #2 and #3 for any gun. If this isn't satisfied you haven't made a gun, you've made a really shitty grenade.
- buildbot 1y agoMore like just a bad, open ended pipe bomb! A grenade is supposed to be more safe than this gun too!
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoGrenades have three manual safeties: thumb clip, pin, and spoon.
- slongfield 1y agoOnly going off when you want it to actually happens to also be requirements #1, #2, and #3 for grenades
- martin-t 1y agoAnd you know what? I still doubt they're gonna face any serious penalties, both to the company and to the execs. We need laws to actually protect normal working people, not corporations and execs. Trying to silence people with lawsuits should be punished according to the severity of what they're trying to hide. Since their shitty gun literally kills people randomly, this harassment campaign should be treated as cover up for murder and punished accordingly.
- jedmeyers 1y ago> I still doubt they're gonna face any serious penalties Having to fix all P320 fire control units they've sold so far will put them out of business. You don't even need any additional penalties on top of that. I just hope they can spin off Optics division before that happens.
- martin-t 1y agoAnd that's why it won't happen. One of the reasons huge companies don't get punished in full is that destroying them could be destabilizing to the economy and therefore hurt's the ability of the people with power to get reelected.
- mothballed 1y agoWouldn't someone buy their capital equipment and IP for pennies on the dollar if they went bankrupt though? So I don't know how much it would destabilize the economy, it would just shift around who runs the company. 'Sig' would cease to exist but 'this mass of capital that makes guns' and possibly even the employees, would still be around.
- martin-t 1y agoIn theory, yes. My guess is they would be bought by an already huge corporation, leading to even bigger monopolies. Does anybody here have an example of this happening? "Nobody knows" is kind of an indication how often this happens. My preferred alternative would be forced conversion to worker owned cooperative BTW.
- pclmulqdq 1y agoThis is not the first time there has been a gun that is known to go off uncommanded. It happens more often than you think. The thing that made this situation unique is the PR response, which has completely killed Sig's reputation in the opinion of many people.
- Tadpole9181 1y agoI largely plan for misfires and accidents when handling a firearm. It happens, though not usually from mechanical failure. But to know the company is so acticely malicious and shady makes me never want to purchase another gun from them again.
- int_19h 1y agoSIG USA didn't have much of a reputation to begin with, to be honest. Some of us still remember the SIG 556R debacle, and that wasn't the first time they shipped a broken gun either. The only real surprise here is that they managed to sell this broken gun to the US government, despite Glock of all things being in the running. And that it took so long for the issue to even register.
- illusive4080 1y agoI’m a huge Sig fan, I think they build a quality firearm. But I am not so blind to see they’ve made an insane mistake here. Recalling all P320s would’ve been better than this disaster.