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Autopilot is opt-in. You can drive it like any other car and never use autopilot.

by sneak 1y ago

lexicality 1y ago
This is very true, but if you had to choose between two microwaves, one of which had a button that occasionally killed people and one which did not, which would you choose? Personally I would feel better buying a microwave that doesn't have the option to decapitate me, even if I would never press it.
- whimsicalism 1y ago
  all cars have a button that occasionally kills people, it’s called the accelerator pedal
  - lexicality 1y ago
    I think you know that's a false equivalence, both because every control in a car has the possibility of killing you and also because every car has an accelerator pedal and I'm talking about an extra button.
    - terminalshort 1y ago
      Well then to go back to your microwave analogy, it's really more like choosing between a microwave with 9 buttons that can occasionally kill you or one with 10 buttons that could occasionally kill you, and that sounds about the same to me.
      - lexicality 1y ago
        Why pay for the extra button in that case?
- MetaWhirledPeas 1y ago
  > one of which had a button that occasionally killed people and one which did not, which would you choose? Are you proposing that other cars' lane-keep software is better? I guess you're going to figure this out somehow before buying your next car?
  - lexicality 1y ago
    > Are you proposing that other cars' lane-keep software is better? I'm proposing that less technologically advanced and software focused cars are less likely to unexpectedly swerve into incoming traffic for sure > I guess you're going to figure this out somehow before buying your next car? Do you not do research and read reviews before making large possibly life-changing purchases?
    - MetaWhirledPeas 1y ago
      > I'm proposing that less technologically advanced and software focused cars are less likely to unexpectedly swerve into incoming traffic for sure Lane-keeping is a pretty common feature in new cars these days. That is the 'technologically advanced' feature that we're talking about. You're going to avoid all of them?
      - lexicality 1y ago
        That's strange, why are you talking about lane keeping? I said I don't want a car with self driving capabilities that kill you.

Autopilot is opt-in. You can drive it like any other car and never use autopilot.

by sneak 1y ago

Autopilot is opt-in. You can drive it like any other car and never use autopilot.

This is very true, but if you had to choose between two microwaves, one of which had a button that occasionally killed people and one which did not, which would you choose? Personally I would feel better buying a microwave that doesn't have the option to decapitate me, even if I would never press it.

whimsicalism 1y ago
all cars have a button that occasionally kills people, it’s called the accelerator pedal
- lexicality 1y ago
  I think you know that's a false equivalence, both because every control in a car has the possibility of killing you and also because every car has an accelerator pedal and I'm talking about an extra button.
  - terminalshort 1y ago
    Well then to go back to your microwave analogy, it's really more like choosing between a microwave with 9 buttons that can occasionally kill you or one with 10 buttons that could occasionally kill you, and that sounds about the same to me.
    - lexicality 1y ago
      Why pay for the extra button in that case?
MetaWhirledPeas 1y ago
> one of which had a button that occasionally killed people and one which did not, which would you choose? Are you proposing that other cars' lane-keep software is better? I guess you're going to figure this out somehow before buying your next car?
- lexicality 1y ago
  > Are you proposing that other cars' lane-keep software is better? I'm proposing that less technologically advanced and software focused cars are less likely to unexpectedly swerve into incoming traffic for sure > I guess you're going to figure this out somehow before buying your next car? Do you not do research and read reviews before making large possibly life-changing purchases?
  - MetaWhirledPeas 1y ago
    > I'm proposing that less technologically advanced and software focused cars are less likely to unexpectedly swerve into incoming traffic for sure Lane-keeping is a pretty common feature in new cars these days. That is the 'technologically advanced' feature that we're talking about. You're going to avoid all of them?
    - lexicality 1y ago
      That's strange, why are you talking about lane keeping? I said I don't want a car with self driving capabilities that kill you.