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It seems to me like some fundamental/core technologies/services just shouldn't be run by for-profit entities, and if come across one doing that, you need to car
by diggan 1y ago
It seems to me like some fundamental/core technologies/services just shouldn't be run by for-profit entities, and if come across one doing that, you need to carefully choose if you want to start being beholden to such entity.
As the years go by, I'm finding myself being able to rely on those less and less, because every time I do, I eventually get disappointed by them working against their user base.
- bigfishrunning 1y agoExcept LLMs aren't a fundamental or core technology, they're an amusing party trick with some really enthusiastic marketers. We don't need them.
- komali2 1y agoUnder the current system we apparently do since Chatgpt is now by far and away the busiest psychiatrist in world history. I don't think we should be so quick to dismiss the holes LLMs are fulfilling as unnecessary. The only thing "necessary" is food water and shelter by some measures.
- psychoslave 1y agoDo we have statistics on this? What is the healing rate compared to human psychotherapy if so?
- diggan 1y agoPersonally, I'm able to write code I wasn't able to before, like functions heavy with math. For game development, this has been super helpful, when I know basically what inputs I have, and what output I need, but I'm not able to figure out how the actual function implementation should be. Add a bunch of unit tests, let the LLM figure out the math, and I can move on to more important features. For me this been a pretty fundamental shift, where before I either had to figure out another way so I can move on, or had to spend weeks writing one function after learning the needed math, and now it can take me 10-30 minutes to nail perfectly.
- insane_dreamer 1y agoSure, I’m more productive with it in certain aspects of my work as well. Does that make it a net positive for humanity? From the energy consumption impact on climate change alone I would say the answer is clearly no. And that’s before we even talk about the impact on the next generation’s job opportunities. And tons of other issues like how Big Tech is behaving.
- bethekidyouwant 1y agoWas coming down from the trees a net positive for humanity?
- insane_dreamer 1y agoWas the creation of the atom bomb a net positive for humanity?
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- diggan 1y ago> Does that make it a net positive for humanity? That I don't know, and probably no one else, way too early to tell. I only responded to a comment stating "LLMs aren't a fundamental or core technology, they're an amusing party trick", which obviously I disagree with as for me they've been a fundamental shift in what I'm able to do. > From the energy consumption impact on climate change alone I would say the answer is clearly no. Ok, I guess that's fair enough. So if someone happens to use local models at home, in a home that is powered by solar power, then you'd feel LLM starting to be a net positive for humanity? > And tons of other issues like how Big Tech is behaving. This is such a big thing in general (that I agree with) but it has nothing to do with LLMs as a technology. Big Tech acts like they own the world and can do whatever they want with it, regardless if there are LLMs or not, so not sure why anyone would expect anything else.
- insane_dreamer 1y ago
- chamomeal 1y agoI’d say they’re a fundamental technology by now. Imagine how many people rely on them. And I’ve seen some heavy reliance.
- goalieca 1y agoI’ve also seen heavy reliance on opioids and that didn’t turn out well.
- chamomeal 1y agoAgree with you there. And that sorta is the kind of reliance I’m talking about. My friends will ask GPT to read restaurant menus for them lol
- thejazzman 1y agomy colleagues relying on it ruined the job for me and i quit. i became the debugging agent expected to constantly fix their half baked "it looks like it works" but doesn't nonsense seriously, the idea we need this is a joke. people need it to pretend they can do their job. the rest of us enjoy having quick help from it. and we have done without it for a very long time already..
- tjr 1y agoUnless one's job expectations have been altered to demand LLM-quantity output, how could someone be reliant upon these tools now? What were they doing two years ago (or maybe even six months ago)? I can understand becoming reliant on a technology -- I expect most programmers today would be pretty lost with punch cards or line editors -- but LLM coding seems too new for true reliance to have formed yet...?