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That's fair. But then why ask the student to pay, rather than the employer?

rgrieselhuber 14y ago
Seems reasonable, you're paying for retraining into what should hopefully be a better career, in as low-risk a way as possible.
patrickaljord 14y ago
Why do you care so much that the student has to pay? And why insist that it's just a cheaper bootcamp? That plus the fact that your account was created an hour ago makes your negativity suspicious. Sorry if I'm wrong.
- jfarmer 14y ago
  It's just unorthodox, is all. It also sets up a strange dynamic if a student can't or won't pay. It would be even lower risk for the student if the hiring company paid, which is a standard practice -- referral fees as a percentage of the referral's first-year salary. 15%-20% is the standard.
  - pbreit 14y ago
    If you don't find a job, you don't pay. And you pay in installments over 6 months (ie, 2% of your annual salary per month). This does not seem crazy. At all.
    - mgamma500 14y ago
      I'll agree it's so crazy its brilliant! I have been trying to self train and make it into mobile platforms for over a year now and its not as easy or speedy as I originally expected. I have very little programming experience and am looking for a more specific career change from IT break fix to mobile dev. I think this model is the perfect way out of the current long term schooling or upfront high cost boot camp that may or may not deliver. Experience is the key and this style of class seems to have lots of hands on experience. It's the perfect mix of intense focus as far as I can tell.
ruggeri 14y ago
We think the incentives align better with this model. We want our students to take the best job for them, regardless of whether the company is paying recruiting fees. As far as recruiting fees go, when employers make a decision on salaries, they look at the total employee cost. If the employer needs to pay a recruiting fee, that goes into the cost. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch, etc, etc. :-)
- w1ntermute 14y ago
  Maybe you should set up some sort of subcontracting scheme - that the students wouldn't have to pay taxes on the 12.5% that they pay to you.
  - Quizz 14y ago
    Wouldn't that 12.5% be a business expense deductible against the gross income anyway? Ask a tax expert, but these costs are "business expenses" and should be deductible.

Seems reasonable, you're paying for retraining into what should hopefully be a better career, in as low-risk a way as possible.

patrickaljord 14y ago

Why do you care so much that the student has to pay? And why insist that it's just a cheaper bootcamp? That plus the fact that your account was created an hour ago makes your negativity suspicious. Sorry if I'm wrong.

jfarmer 14y ago
It's just unorthodox, is all. It also sets up a strange dynamic if a student can't or won't pay. It would be even lower risk for the student if the hiring company paid, which is a standard practice -- referral fees as a percentage of the referral's first-year salary. 15%-20% is the standard.
- pbreit 14y ago
  If you don't find a job, you don't pay. And you pay in installments over 6 months (ie, 2% of your annual salary per month). This does not seem crazy. At all.
  - mgamma500 14y ago
    I'll agree it's so crazy its brilliant! I have been trying to self train and make it into mobile platforms for over a year now and its not as easy or speedy as I originally expected. I have very little programming experience and am looking for a more specific career change from IT break fix to mobile dev. I think this model is the perfect way out of the current long term schooling or upfront high cost boot camp that may or may not deliver. Experience is the key and this style of class seems to have lots of hands on experience. It's the perfect mix of intense focus as far as I can tell.

ruggeri 14y ago

We think the incentives align better with this model. We want our students to take the best job for them, regardless of whether the company is paying recruiting fees. As far as recruiting fees go, when employers make a decision on salaries, they look at the total employee cost. If the employer needs to pay a recruiting fee, that goes into the cost. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch, etc, etc. :-)

w1ntermute 14y ago
Maybe you should set up some sort of subcontracting scheme - that the students wouldn't have to pay taxes on the 12.5% that they pay to you.
- Quizz 14y ago
  Wouldn't that 12.5% be a business expense deductible against the gross income anyway? Ask a tax expert, but these costs are "business expenses" and should be deductible.