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> We going to pretend the crusades didn't happen? > Christian and Muslim states had been in conflict since the establishment of Islam in the 7th century. In th
by instig007 1y ago
> We going to pretend the crusades didn't happen?
> Christian and Muslim states had been in conflict since the establishment of Islam in the 7th century. In the span of approximately 120 years after the death of the Islamic prophet Muhammad in 632, Muslim forces conquered the Levant (including Jerusalem), as well as North Africa and most of the Iberian Peninsula, all of which had previously been under Christian rule. By the 11th century, Christians were through the Reconquista gradually reversing the 8th-century Muslim conquest of Iberia, but their ties to the Holy Land had deteriorated. Muslim authorities in the Levant often enforced harsh rules against any overt expressions of the Christian faith. [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade
You can't play the crusades card in this context.
- AlecSchueler 1y agoSorry, what can't I do? I'm not sure what "card" I'm playing. I said there was instability in the region causing issues and the response was "but those issues were already there 1000 years ago." Your own link is about the conflict in the region at that time and your quote points to that conflict having already been quite entrenched for some time.
- rangestransform 1y agoWhat do we owe them if they played a hand in causing their own issues?
- AlecSchueler 1y agoIt's called basic human empathy. But even from a purely selfish POV helping to improve things outside of Europe is going to help to reduce to pressure on systems and cultures within Europe by reducing the likelihood of someone needing to emigrate.