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Unfortunately, this is in licensing infringement with the actual Helveticards (helveticards.ryanmyers.me). I have contacted the creator and informed him of the

Unfortunately, this is in licensing infringement with the actual Helveticards (helveticards.ryanmyers.me). I have contacted the creator and informed him of the conflict.

julien_c 14y ago
Licensing infringement over what? A possible Helveticards trademark? (The designs don't look similar at all)
- julien_c 14y ago
  At least in the US, there is no trademark over name Helveticards (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/process/search/#heading-1 http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/process/search/#heading-1)
  - uberryan 14y ago
    To use any version of the 'Helvetica' name in a product or object, LinoType must issue a license. I, myself, received a cease-and-desist from their legal team if I didn't acquire a licensing agreement, which I did. I didn't say I had a trademark. All that would do is disallow usage of the Helveticards mark that I designed.
    - daleharvey 14y ago
      That isnt a licensing agreement with helveticards, that is a possible licence issue with linotype
antidaily 14y ago
Perhaps but those look like shit.
- deleted 14y ago
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  - splatzone 14y ago
    Your litigious attitude isn't helping you much here. You've missed a good opportunity for exposure.
    - pc86 14y ago
      I do wish I had caught that before it was deleted.
      - antidaily 14y ago
        He just said the cards had sold 20k units. Which I didnt believe at first, but I Googled it and it was on Fab and some other high traffic websites so who knows.
zachwaugh 14y ago
I created this before I ever heard about the playing cards of the same name, and actually meant to change the name (check out the last line of the readme - https://github.com/zachwaugh/Helveticards/blob/master/readme.md https://github.com/zachwaugh/Helveticards/blob/master/readme...). Happy to change the name though, this was just a quick, weekend hack about two years ago.
aclimatt 14y ago
What? First, I'm pretty sure you're the creator so you don't have to be noble about it. Second, the word "Helvetica" is trademarked in reference to a font or a software program relating to fonts. So unless he plans on selling a font called Helvetica, he can write the word as much as he pleases. It's the Latin name for Switzerland. Third, until you trademark the term Helveticards and he starts offering a product in a similar likeness, this discussion is between him and Linotype. Stop trying to peddle your own product. Too bad, because I actually like your cards!
- uberryan 14y ago
  My goal wasn't to peddle my product. It was more to protect the existing brand that I've created around the product. While you aren't completely correct in your second point (as I found out in my own dealings with LinoType), I do want to take a moment to apologize. I'm sorry for barging in a causing raucous that could have easily been handled privately. To all, please accept my apology for lack of tact. You live, you learn, you do better next time. Regards, Ryan Myers
  - RossM 14y ago
    > I have contacted the creator and informed him of the conflict. Seriously, there's more than a lack of tact there.
k33n 14y ago
I'm not sure why you reacted this way. You're the creator, and the designs are wildly different. There's no licensing infringement with you because you aren't Linotype, and this project is not for profit. I'm sure you're a nice enough guy in the real world, but you certainly came off badly here.
zachinglis 14y ago
Erm. Wow. This is CSS demo that was purely meant to be a learning/teaching exercise. There is absolutely no competition. But how about rather than complaining that someone else 'took your name', though yours is obviously equally inspired from LinoType you work on building a better business? I know I personally bought your cards a few years ago and still have yet to receive them despite emails/Tweets and the like. You're doing yourself absolutely no favours with behaviour like this. This sort of behaviour only works with giant companies, and still then it often creates bad blood for the consumer.
- uberryan 14y ago
  Absolutely agree. If you continue to read down in the thread, I apologized for addressing it at all. Regarding your purchase, based on my records, your cards were shipped on Nov 22, 2011.
  - zachinglis 14y ago
    Glad to see you've apologised. I respect that. (Not often I see people do that, rather than burying themselves deeper.) And as the 4 emails and one tweet I have sent you over the years, I never received them.
- uberryan 14y ago
  I'd be happy to refund your purchase if you'd like to email me directly.
  - zachinglis 14y ago
    Which email?
    - uberryan 14y ago
      You can go to my website and contact me through there.

Unfortunately, this is in licensing infringement with the actual Helveticards (helveticards.ryanmyers.me). I have contacted the creator and informed him of the conflict.

julien_c 14y ago

Licensing infringement over what? A possible Helveticards trademark? (The designs don't look similar at all)

julien_c 14y ago
At least in the US, there is no trademark over name Helveticards (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/process/search/#heading-1 http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/process/search/#heading-1)
- uberryan 14y ago
  To use any version of the 'Helvetica' name in a product or object, LinoType must issue a license. I, myself, received a cease-and-desist from their legal team if I didn't acquire a licensing agreement, which I did. I didn't say I had a trademark. All that would do is disallow usage of the Helveticards mark that I designed.
  - daleharvey 14y ago
    That isnt a licensing agreement with helveticards, that is a possible licence issue with linotype

antidaily 14y ago

Perhaps but those look like shit.

deleted 14y ago
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- splatzone 14y ago
  Your litigious attitude isn't helping you much here. You've missed a good opportunity for exposure.
  - pc86 14y ago
    I do wish I had caught that before it was deleted.
    - antidaily 14y ago
      He just said the cards had sold 20k units. Which I didnt believe at first, but I Googled it and it was on Fab and some other high traffic websites so who knows.

zachwaugh 14y ago

I created this before I ever heard about the playing cards of the same name, and actually meant to change the name (check out the last line of the readme - https://github.com/zachwaugh/Helveticards/blob/master/readme.md https://github.com/zachwaugh/Helveticards/blob/master/readme...). Happy to change the name though, this was just a quick, weekend hack about two years ago.

aclimatt 14y ago

What? First, I'm pretty sure you're the creator so you don't have to be noble about it. Second, the word "Helvetica" is trademarked in reference to a font or a software program relating to fonts. So unless he plans on selling a font called Helvetica, he can write the word as much as he pleases. It's the Latin name for Switzerland. Third, until you trademark the term Helveticards and he starts offering a product in a similar likeness, this discussion is between him and Linotype. Stop trying to peddle your own product. Too bad, because I actually like your cards!

uberryan 14y ago
My goal wasn't to peddle my product. It was more to protect the existing brand that I've created around the product. While you aren't completely correct in your second point (as I found out in my own dealings with LinoType), I do want to take a moment to apologize. I'm sorry for barging in a causing raucous that could have easily been handled privately. To all, please accept my apology for lack of tact. You live, you learn, you do better next time. Regards, Ryan Myers
- RossM 14y ago
  > I have contacted the creator and informed him of the conflict. Seriously, there's more than a lack of tact there.

k33n 14y ago

I'm not sure why you reacted this way. You're the creator, and the designs are wildly different. There's no licensing infringement with you because you aren't Linotype, and this project is not for profit. I'm sure you're a nice enough guy in the real world, but you certainly came off badly here.

zachinglis 14y ago

Erm. Wow. This is CSS demo that was purely meant to be a learning/teaching exercise. There is absolutely no competition. But how about rather than complaining that someone else 'took your name', though yours is obviously equally inspired from LinoType you work on building a better business? I know I personally bought your cards a few years ago and still have yet to receive them despite emails/Tweets and the like. You're doing yourself absolutely no favours with behaviour like this. This sort of behaviour only works with giant companies, and still then it often creates bad blood for the consumer.

uberryan 14y ago
Absolutely agree. If you continue to read down in the thread, I apologized for addressing it at all. Regarding your purchase, based on my records, your cards were shipped on Nov 22, 2011.
- zachinglis 14y ago
  Glad to see you've apologised. I respect that. (Not often I see people do that, rather than burying themselves deeper.) And as the 4 emails and one tweet I have sent you over the years, I never received them.
uberryan 14y ago
I'd be happy to refund your purchase if you'd like to email me directly.
- zachinglis 14y ago
  Which email?
  - uberryan 14y ago
    You can go to my website and contact me through there.