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> When Apple created iOS it was a closed platform. When they added the ability to create third party native apps they were clear that the platform would be a wa
by aspenmayer 1y ago
> When Apple created iOS it was a closed platform. When they added the ability to create third party native apps they were clear that the platform would be a walled garden.
It clearly was not a closed platform in the way that Apple believed. It never should have been closed. I own my devices, so I get to decide what they run. It’s my electricity driving the chips, so I decide which bits get flipped. Simple as.
I do hear you, I just don’t know if I have the same perception of the facts on the ground. Google and Apple should be compelled to support users’ decisions about whether to defer to the corporate overlords, or not.
- GeekyBear 1y ago> I own my devices, so I get to decide what they run. That's not how the law works. As long as the device creator is absolutely clear to consumers that choosing their platform means that consumers will be buying into a walled garden, it's perfectly legal. The only way to change that is to change the law, as the EU did.
- aspenmayer 1y agoI think we’re arguing past each other. I agree that a law may be needed to compel them to acknowledge rights that users already have in practice. A right that can’t be exercised is a wrong.
- aspenmayer 1y agoI guess I should say that folks have those rights in principle, but not in practice.
- GeekyBear 1y agoThat's how the US courts have ruled.
- aspenmayer 1y agoHow can we make this issue important enough to be addressed by Congress? If it doesn’t reach the Supreme Court as a challenge or test case, that may be our only avenue of redress. I appreciate you for making a point of bringing this up. I care as you do and want better for computing and computer users.
- GeekyBear 1y agoI don't think that the American Congress is likely to side against donors and make walled gardens illegal any time soon. The judge who ruled in Epic vs Apple did mention in the ruling that Epic could have had more success if they had focused on the size of the 30% cut instead of arguing that Apple could not take a cut from the App Store at all.
- GeekyBear 1y agoNobody forces users to buy into a walled garden platform. If you make that choice, you voluntarily gave up the ability to run any software you like. You do have the right to choose an open platform instead. Hopefully from a vendor that doesn't break its promises.
- aspenmayer 1y agoThe interoperability exemption to the DMCA allows users to legally hack their devices to do whatever the user(s) need or want for accessibility purposes.