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This is because Republican fascists overthrew the United States of America and threatened to kidnap and torture overseas students attending domestic universitie

This is because Republican fascists overthrew the United States of America and threatened to kidnap and torture overseas students attending domestic universities. It is unclear to me why anyone in the comments here is under another impression. These were newsworthy events.

next_xibalba 1y ago
> overthrew They weren't elected?
- watwut 1y ago
  They were elected, proceeded to break the law and ignore it. Now they are trying to figure put how to get rid of the pesky voting.
- aredox 1y ago
  One man, one vote - one last time.
- deleted 1y ago
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- danaris 1y ago
  Given the amount of gerrymandering, active voter suppression, and long-standing measures to ensure that certain groups of people have a harder time voting than others (specifically, those who have to work hourly jobs—especially those that are not a standard 9-5 office job), even leaving aside any other possible method of ensuring votes for anyone except Trump counted, there's plenty of room to cast suspicion on the degree to which the outcome of the election represents the will of the people.
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  - esbranson 1y ago
    California Proposition 50 (2025) to gerrymander California was not put forward by Trump. And as someone who was challenged at the polling station by a leftist white woman in 2016, then as now as an hourly worker, you're wrong about voter suppression as well. (How many unreported incidents make something systematic?) You have been sold a lie.
    - next_xibalba 1y ago
      It is very interesting that the last governor of California who was a republican did the most to try to ensure fair voting that produced candidates more representative of the views of the electorate.
    - stouset 1y ago
      > who was challenged at the polling station by a leftist white woman Literally my dude why are you making your voting choices known to poll workers who have no fucking choice but to stand there and listen? I have spent years overseeing polling locations as an election inspector in the city of San Francisco. In all my years of doing this, I only saw one type of voter who made absolutely certain everyone around them knew exactly who they were voting for, whether or not they wanted to hear it, laws against electioneering be damned. It’s the same type of person who drives a truck around plastered top to bottom with a guy’s name across it, flying forty foot flags behind them. The same type of voter for whom their candidate has become their entire insufferable personality. Who wears the hats, the shirts, has tattoos, and on and on and on. One guy in particular went so far as to ask for help from a polling worker so they’d mark his ballot in favor of his specific presidential candidate. He had no problem whatsoever filling out the rest of his ballot. But it was real goddamn important for him to go out of his way to be a complete asshole to an innocent fucking volunteer who was sacrificing their entire goddamn day to make sure he could vote. For whatever reason, this type of person is never a Harris, Biden, or Obama voter. But I have every confidence you are that type of person. > California Proposition 50 (2025) to gerrymander California was not put forward by Trump. Prop 50 is very clearly and transparently a retaliation for Texas redrawing their election map. Nobody on the left is happy about this, but we are absolutely done fighting fascist power grabs with gentle requests to fight fair. Take a good fucking look on the inside some time, my friend.
- kjkjadksj 1y ago
  People were mislead with propaganda to vote against their own interests.
  - brailsafe 1y ago
    so... elected
    - stouset 1y ago
      Adolf Hitler was elected. I would still say he overthrew the government of Germany. We are in the midst of a frighteningly similar takeover.
      - brailsafe 1y ago
        I was being a bit intentionally facetious and suggesting that your comment is basically the nature of elections regardless of who you vote for. But I feel like with regard to the U.S there are many better contemporary examples of overthrowing governments. Iraq, Afghanistan, all throughout central and south america, it's pretty much their job at this point. The fact that someone has come in and started swinging a morning star around in the head office is an interesting and dangerous new twist, one that will hopefully end up incomparable to the infamous leaders of atrocity in history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in...
    - kjkjadksj 1y ago
      So was Mussolini
  - user982 1y ago
    "Yes, history repeats itself. You're fooling people with your propaganda." "Oh, Sawatzki... You don't understand. In 1933, people were not fooled by propaganda. They elected a leader, who openly disclosed his plans in great clarity. The Germans elected me." - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALTkMpPLuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALTkMpPLuU
- UncleMeat 1y ago
  Trump was elected as president. He was not elected as king. Trump is currently doing a large number of things that are beyond the lawful powers of the president. That's what makes it overthrowing the US.

next_xibalba 1y ago

> overthrew They weren't elected?

watwut 1y ago
They were elected, proceeded to break the law and ignore it. Now they are trying to figure put how to get rid of the pesky voting.
aredox 1y ago
One man, one vote - one last time.
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danaris 1y ago
Given the amount of gerrymandering, active voter suppression, and long-standing measures to ensure that certain groups of people have a harder time voting than others (specifically, those who have to work hourly jobs—especially those that are not a standard 9-5 office job), even leaving aside any other possible method of ensuring votes for anyone except Trump counted, there's plenty of room to cast suspicion on the degree to which the outcome of the election represents the will of the people.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- esbranson 1y ago
  California Proposition 50 (2025) to gerrymander California was not put forward by Trump. And as someone who was challenged at the polling station by a leftist white woman in 2016, then as now as an hourly worker, you're wrong about voter suppression as well. (How many unreported incidents make something systematic?) You have been sold a lie.
  - next_xibalba 1y ago
    It is very interesting that the last governor of California who was a republican did the most to try to ensure fair voting that produced candidates more representative of the views of the electorate.
  - stouset 1y ago
    > who was challenged at the polling station by a leftist white woman Literally my dude why are you making your voting choices known to poll workers who have no fucking choice but to stand there and listen? I have spent years overseeing polling locations as an election inspector in the city of San Francisco. In all my years of doing this, I only saw one type of voter who made absolutely certain everyone around them knew exactly who they were voting for, whether or not they wanted to hear it, laws against electioneering be damned. It’s the same type of person who drives a truck around plastered top to bottom with a guy’s name across it, flying forty foot flags behind them. The same type of voter for whom their candidate has become their entire insufferable personality. Who wears the hats, the shirts, has tattoos, and on and on and on. One guy in particular went so far as to ask for help from a polling worker so they’d mark his ballot in favor of his specific presidential candidate. He had no problem whatsoever filling out the rest of his ballot. But it was real goddamn important for him to go out of his way to be a complete asshole to an innocent fucking volunteer who was sacrificing their entire goddamn day to make sure he could vote. For whatever reason, this type of person is never a Harris, Biden, or Obama voter. But I have every confidence you are that type of person. > California Proposition 50 (2025) to gerrymander California was not put forward by Trump. Prop 50 is very clearly and transparently a retaliation for Texas redrawing their election map. Nobody on the left is happy about this, but we are absolutely done fighting fascist power grabs with gentle requests to fight fair. Take a good fucking look on the inside some time, my friend.
kjkjadksj 1y ago
People were mislead with propaganda to vote against their own interests.
- brailsafe 1y ago
  so... elected
  - stouset 1y ago
    Adolf Hitler was elected. I would still say he overthrew the government of Germany. We are in the midst of a frighteningly similar takeover.
    - brailsafe 1y ago
      I was being a bit intentionally facetious and suggesting that your comment is basically the nature of elections regardless of who you vote for. But I feel like with regard to the U.S there are many better contemporary examples of overthrowing governments. Iraq, Afghanistan, all throughout central and south america, it's pretty much their job at this point. The fact that someone has come in and started swinging a morning star around in the head office is an interesting and dangerous new twist, one that will hopefully end up incomparable to the infamous leaders of atrocity in history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in...
  - kjkjadksj 1y ago
    So was Mussolini
- user982 1y ago
  "Yes, history repeats itself. You're fooling people with your propaganda." "Oh, Sawatzki... You don't understand. In 1933, people were not fooled by propaganda. They elected a leader, who openly disclosed his plans in great clarity. The Germans elected me." - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALTkMpPLuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALTkMpPLuU
UncleMeat 1y ago
Trump was elected as president. He was not elected as king. Trump is currently doing a large number of things that are beyond the lawful powers of the president. That's what makes it overthrowing the US.