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Having worked with a MOBO manufacturer, I would say that this is somewhat plausible though not necessarily the fault of the engineers. In my experience, both us

Having worked with a MOBO manufacturer, I would say that this is somewhat plausible though not necessarily the fault of the engineers. In my experience, both users and company administration, e.g. sales, CEOs have a lot to do with failures. An example, users are used to a particular MOBO brand, they want to try the new gadget-a video card usually, which requires much more power than the recommended power supply. They call tech support asking for an opinion, tech support talks to sales, sales will want to make the, well, sale. They typically did not ask the engineers for an opinion, as they are overseas, and instead query a direct manager, who will typically test the compatibility of the device and for a few days. When the device passes the test, they relate the good news to the sales department, who will then contact the user with the good news, an offer of a complete system. The user buys the system with the new video card, takes it for a ride. Three months later the user calls in reporting heating issues, tech support walks the user through some test, the user typically provides the results, tech support does not have an answer for the issue, they ask the user to send the unit in for testing and repair. Unit comes into the shop, board gets replaced, tested for three more days, passes all tests, gets shipped back to the user and issue pops up again, user gets irate, threatens to sue, nothing gets fixed. All because the bottom line is the $3000 dollars that was made in the sale. The issue eventually gets sent up the chain to engineers, they provide a BIOS fix, given to the user, user flashes. Issue is fixed, two years later, new Video Card comes in, user decides he needs that vid card, the never-ending cycle continues anew. I remember an instance where machines from a former employer was touted as a small low-heat server, really tiny, machine was made with substandard components, basically, cost-cutting at its best. Machines overheated, CPUs damaged, real shit show. So yes, MOBO manufacturers, users bare equal responsibility, a chance to make lots of money & commission from the former, the need to be the first to try cutting edge technology without regards for proper safety, limitations and hardware compatibility, from the latter. It seems that over the decades, people have failed to learn or neglected, Moore's Law's increasing physical limitations, because hey why not ;)

brokenmachine 1y ago
>users bare equal responsibility, a chance to make lots of money & commission from the former, the need to be the first to try cutting edge technology without regards for proper safety, limitations and hardware compatibility, from the latter. The users do not bear responsibility here. It's up to the manufacturer to say no if it's not possible. And why are managers testing new GPU/mobo combinations? A company run like that and not learning lessons deserves to fail.
- SilentM68 1y ago
  Inaccurate! Users' bare responsibility, because after being told that things will go wrong, users still went ahead and did it any ways, at least during my time in that industry. In my experience, the majority of the users that I dealt with were those fresh out of public college and education, where their brains were lobotomized during their time in school, and refuse to learn, even when the truth was in front of them. Yes, a company like that and not learning lessons deserves to fail. The problem is that there are too many young uneducated graduates, that were never taught to distinguish the truth from myth. Garbage companies and their greed continue to take advantage of their naivety because they know the industry is f**ed and there is no real way to make a sustainable living. The economies are, have been, and will continue to be messed up. Just take a look around and see how jobs are nonexistent. Those jobs that do exists, are few and far between. People mostly get hired by knowing someone in a company, a friend, a family member that can recommend them. There will never be enough jobs for everyone. Basically, the company is crap, a by-product of a long-declining, garbage-industry, based on political policies and lies from the past. It reminds me of the "Never-ending story,". Recycle, repeat! Recycle, repeat! Never Innovate :( Sol Roth

brokenmachine 1y ago

>users bare equal responsibility, a chance to make lots of money & commission from the former, the need to be the first to try cutting edge technology without regards for proper safety, limitations and hardware compatibility, from the latter. The users do not bear responsibility here. It's up to the manufacturer to say no if it's not possible. And why are managers testing new GPU/mobo combinations? A company run like that and not learning lessons deserves to fail.

SilentM68 1y ago
Inaccurate! Users' bare responsibility, because after being told that things will go wrong, users still went ahead and did it any ways, at least during my time in that industry. In my experience, the majority of the users that I dealt with were those fresh out of public college and education, where their brains were lobotomized during their time in school, and refuse to learn, even when the truth was in front of them. Yes, a company like that and not learning lessons deserves to fail. The problem is that there are too many young uneducated graduates, that were never taught to distinguish the truth from myth. Garbage companies and their greed continue to take advantage of their naivety because they know the industry is f**ed and there is no real way to make a sustainable living. The economies are, have been, and will continue to be messed up. Just take a look around and see how jobs are nonexistent. Those jobs that do exists, are few and far between. People mostly get hired by knowing someone in a company, a friend, a family member that can recommend them. There will never be enough jobs for everyone. Basically, the company is crap, a by-product of a long-declining, garbage-industry, based on political policies and lies from the past. It reminds me of the "Never-ending story,". Recycle, repeat! Recycle, repeat! Never Innovate :( Sol Roth