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I was reading along with great sympathy until I got to this bit... Schizoaffective disorder carries stigma that depression and anxiety don't. People can relate

I was reading along with great sympathy until I got to this bit... Schizoaffective disorder carries stigma that depression and anxiety don't. People can relate to feeling sad or worried; they cannot relate to experiencing reality differently. Depression is not "feeling sad" and very much is experiencing reality differently. Flippantly calling something so horrifically painful "feeling sad" is exactly the kind of thing he's accusing everyone else of.

jerlendds 1y ago
Youre right its not just feeling sad but relative to the extreme symptoms of Psychosis, delression is very mild by comparison
- blazarquasar 1y ago
  These disorders don't exist on the same spectrum. There is no point in comparing the two. Both can be absolutely debilitating. People that feel the need to compare severity of disorders like you do actively contribute to the stigma and invalidation of severe disorders. Tell the families of the more than 700k people that commit suicide every year that "depression is very mild by comparison". An absolutely ignorant comment.
  - jerlendds 1y ago
    Well we agree they exist on different spectrums. The suicide rate is also very bad for psychotic disorders although far fewer people suffer from them. Having faced stigma and invalidation for my issues I suppose I let that rub off on me to the point I stigmatized others. Thanks for pointing that out, I suppose I should be more mindful in the future
    - blazarquasar 1y ago
      I appreciate your reply. Psychotic disorders are absolutely debilitating and any stigma and invalidation towards those is just as shameful. I understand your reaction and I apologize if I was being a little too confrontational. I guess we both share a similar history of stigmatization.
anaisbetts 1y ago
When he says "experiencing reality differently", that is meant in an extremely visceral sense - I could be extremely depressed and that is debilitating, but I will never literally see or hear other people that aren't physically there. The vast majority of people cannot relate to that experience. Most people have experienced depression or anxiety, at least at some level.
- blazarquasar 1y ago
  This is a very ignorant thing to say. I agree that most people cannot relate to the experience of psychotic episodes. While prevalence IS higher for depression and anxiety, most people have not experienced depression or anxiety and will not in their life. Lifetime prevalence of depression is 10-20% worldwide, depending on the studies. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21243-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21243-x Anxiety prevalence is a little higher but also not experienced by a majority. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.31887/DCNS.2015.17.3/bbandelow https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.31887/DCNS.2015.17.3... People that have not experienced anxiety and depression can not relate. Depression and anxiety are not amplified version of emotions. They are not on the same spectrum. Comparing the disorders makes no sense and only helps stigma.

jerlendds 1y ago

Youre right its not just feeling sad but relative to the extreme symptoms of Psychosis, delression is very mild by comparison

blazarquasar 1y ago
These disorders don't exist on the same spectrum. There is no point in comparing the two. Both can be absolutely debilitating. People that feel the need to compare severity of disorders like you do actively contribute to the stigma and invalidation of severe disorders. Tell the families of the more than 700k people that commit suicide every year that "depression is very mild by comparison". An absolutely ignorant comment.
- jerlendds 1y ago
  Well we agree they exist on different spectrums. The suicide rate is also very bad for psychotic disorders although far fewer people suffer from them. Having faced stigma and invalidation for my issues I suppose I let that rub off on me to the point I stigmatized others. Thanks for pointing that out, I suppose I should be more mindful in the future
  - blazarquasar 1y ago
    I appreciate your reply. Psychotic disorders are absolutely debilitating and any stigma and invalidation towards those is just as shameful. I understand your reaction and I apologize if I was being a little too confrontational. I guess we both share a similar history of stigmatization.

anaisbetts 1y ago

When he says "experiencing reality differently", that is meant in an extremely visceral sense - I could be extremely depressed and that is debilitating, but I will never literally see or hear other people that aren't physically there. The vast majority of people cannot relate to that experience. Most people have experienced depression or anxiety, at least at some level.

blazarquasar 1y ago
This is a very ignorant thing to say. I agree that most people cannot relate to the experience of psychotic episodes. While prevalence IS higher for depression and anxiety, most people have not experienced depression or anxiety and will not in their life. Lifetime prevalence of depression is 10-20% worldwide, depending on the studies. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21243-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21243-x Anxiety prevalence is a little higher but also not experienced by a majority. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.31887/DCNS.2015.17.3/bbandelow https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.31887/DCNS.2015.17.3... People that have not experienced anxiety and depression can not relate. Depression and anxiety are not amplified version of emotions. They are not on the same spectrum. Comparing the disorders makes no sense and only helps stigma.