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I wouldn't be surprised if their profit/query is at a negative for all major Ai companies, but guess what? They have a service which understands a users questi

I wouldn't be surprised if their profit/query is at a negative for all major Ai companies, but guess what? They have a service which understands a users question/needs 100x better than a traditional Google search does. Once they tap into that for PPC/paid ads, their profit/query should jump into the green. In fact, there's a decent chance a lot of these models will go 100% free once that PPC pipeline is implemented and shown to be profitable.

techpineapple 1y ago
> They have a service which understands a users question/needs 100x better than a traditional Google search does. Source?
- EcommerceFlow 1y ago
  A lifetime of using Google and 4 years of using LLMs.
  - nativeit 1y ago
    …is a great counter-example of a “source”. It’s not like the product at-hand is relevant to data analysis or anything, amirite?
    - Filligree 1y ago
      Sometimes a statement is just too obvious to need extensive sourcing, and this is one of those times. Gemini doesn’t always find very much better results, but it usually does. It beggars belief to claim that it doesn’t also understand the query much better than Rankbrain et al.
efficax 1y ago
> Once they tap into that for PPC/paid ads, If they start showing ads based on your prompts, and your history of "chats", it will erode the already shaky trust that users have in the bots. "Hallucinations" are one thing, but now you'll be asking yourself all the time: is that the best answer the llm can give me, or has it been trained to respond in ways favourable to its advertisers?
- xdennis 1y ago
  This is the exact same issues Facebook/YouTube/etc had with ads. In the end, ads won. Google used to segregate ads very clearly in the beginning. Now they look almost the same as results. I've switched to DDG since then, but have the majority of users? Nope. Even if they're not using ad blockers, most people seem to not mind the ads. With LLMs, the ads will be even more harder to tell apart from non-ads.

techpineapple 1y ago

> They have a service which understands a users question/needs 100x better than a traditional Google search does. Source?

EcommerceFlow 1y ago
A lifetime of using Google and 4 years of using LLMs.
- nativeit 1y ago
  …is a great counter-example of a “source”. It’s not like the product at-hand is relevant to data analysis or anything, amirite?
  - Filligree 1y ago
    Sometimes a statement is just too obvious to need extensive sourcing, and this is one of those times. Gemini doesn’t always find very much better results, but it usually does. It beggars belief to claim that it doesn’t also understand the query much better than Rankbrain et al.

efficax 1y ago

> Once they tap into that for PPC/paid ads, If they start showing ads based on your prompts, and your history of "chats", it will erode the already shaky trust that users have in the bots. "Hallucinations" are one thing, but now you'll be asking yourself all the time: is that the best answer the llm can give me, or has it been trained to respond in ways favourable to its advertisers?

xdennis 1y ago
This is the exact same issues Facebook/YouTube/etc had with ads. In the end, ads won. Google used to segregate ads very clearly in the beginning. Now they look almost the same as results. I've switched to DDG since then, but have the majority of users? Nope. Even if they're not using ad blockers, most people seem to not mind the ads. With LLMs, the ads will be even more harder to tell apart from non-ads.