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I find the rankings from ARWU (a Shanghai-based institute) makes more sense. http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU20
by cygwin98 14y ago
I find the rankings from ARWU (a Shanghai-based institute) makes more sense.
http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html
The Top ten universities listed there are
1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Cambridge
6 California Institute of Technology
7 Princeton University
8 Columbia University
9 University of Chicago
10 University of Oxford
- arethuza 14y agoWhy does that make more sense? It's just different and equally as arbitrary a set of ranking criteria as the original article.
- cygwin98 14y agoAll ranks are biased. But I don't think four universities from UK can make into top 10. Cambridge and Oxford maybe, the other two not so much. Regarding the rankings from ARWU, I think Berkeley and Columbia is a bit too high on the list.
- 001sky 14y agoBerkeley has a hudge breadth of top ranked Phd courses, so depending on how you account for that it matters greatly. It also has a surprisingly strong brand internationally, including in Asia. So, smart people think differently depending upon where you are getting the data from. (What USA tennie-boppers think is "prestigeous" doesn't always play well in other areas, etc).
- geebee 14y agoI agree about Berkeley. Looking over the various departmental rankings, Berkeley and Stanford are the only universities that (at the PhD level) seem to be near the top in every discipline. I'd guess that the absence of a med school pulls down Berkeley's ranking somewhat. When you start comparing research funding and activity, the med schools play a huge role in pumping up the numbers.
- 001sky 14y agoUC med school is in SF, so your analysis makes sense. UCSF definitely in the elite tier of Med schools, too.
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- jannotti 14y agoWhat "makes sense" is that a ranking system that surely depends a great deal on reputation finds schools geographically closer to it to be "better". (In particular, I'm comparing the ranking of Stanford and MIT in surveys from the UK and Asia.)