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hmm you probably couldn't be faulted about thinking that all this was imaginary until you get a grenade thrown at you - I was part of an NGO team in Kabul, Afgh

by pajop 14y ago

hmm you probably couldn't be faulted about thinking that all this was imaginary until you get a grenade thrown at you - I was part of an NGO team in Kabul, Afghanistan that was targeted by a grenade thrown from a motorcycle (tandem) that providentially didn't explode.

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7952 14y ago
But the presence of violence in Afghanistan is not evidence of a broader existential threat or a globally organised campaign. Its evidence of a country that has had decades of war and death. This [1] survey suggests that many Afghans don't even know about 9/11. What threat are these people to the USA? [1] http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/19/think-tank-afghans-dont-know-911/ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/19/think-tank-afghans-don...
GFischer 14y ago
And how is that an example of terrorism? By your own admission you were in Kabul, Afghanistan, a country that neither called for nor welcomes the U.S., it was an invasion. I would expect hostile action in an invaded territory (unless you were a muslim NGO, in which case I'd retract). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan#Invasion_by_the_United_States_and_allies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan#Invasi... "Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
- flyinRyan 14y ago
  Exactly. This is the thing that frustrates me the most about the reporting about Iraq and Afgan wars: anyone who fights back is part of the terrorist organization. I imagine if Russia plopped down bases, artillery, tanks and so on on american soil, citizens would probably attack them in the hopes of driving them out. That's not terrorism, that's defending your country from an unwanted foreign invader. Some might say that's the duty of any able bodied citizen.

by pajop 14y ago

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7952 14y ago

But the presence of violence in Afghanistan is not evidence of a broader existential threat or a globally organised campaign. Its evidence of a country that has had decades of war and death. This [1] survey suggests that many Afghans don't even know about 9/11. What threat are these people to the USA? [1] http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/19/think-tank-afghans-dont-know-911/ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/19/think-tank-afghans-don...

GFischer 14y ago

And how is that an example of terrorism? By your own admission you were in Kabul, Afghanistan, a country that neither called for nor welcomes the U.S., it was an invasion. I would expect hostile action in an invaded territory (unless you were a muslim NGO, in which case I'd retract). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan#Invasion_by_the_United_States_and_allies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan#Invasi... "Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

flyinRyan 14y ago
Exactly. This is the thing that frustrates me the most about the reporting about Iraq and Afgan wars: anyone who fights back is part of the terrorist organization. I imagine if Russia plopped down bases, artillery, tanks and so on on american soil, citizens would probably attack them in the hopes of driving them out. That's not terrorism, that's defending your country from an unwanted foreign invader. Some might say that's the duty of any able bodied citizen.