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Fair enough, but if you know you're audience may be dismissive of your writing and its message if you use such words, it behooves one to steer clear of AI slop

Fair enough, but if you know you're audience may be dismissive of your writing and its message if you use such words, it behooves one to steer clear of AI slop words. IIRC, such offenses in school writing are tagged PWC (poor word choice).

dingnuts 1y ago
I'm not sure someone with a handle that references Ayn Rand's second most boring book has a right to comment on word choice lol
- Terr_ 1y ago
  It's one of the few books that I went into totally blind, and then hate-finished just so that I could confidently condemn it. I've deleted a paragraph or two to avoid unilaterally taking everything too off topic, but I'll just say that the book is a self-contradictory artifact of hypocrisy that disrespects the reader.
  - rcfox 1y ago
    I also went into that book blind. I was in grade 12 and some organization was offering scholarships to people who wrote an essay about the book. I had a twice-daily 45-minute bus ride to fill, so it seemed like an easy win. I didn't end up finishing the book.
    - bryanlarsen 1y ago
      Probably not the type of organization to give a scholarship to those who write an essay critical of the work. Myself, I read it at age 12 and bought its premise at the time. Therefore I mentally categorize Ayn Rand devotees as people with the maturity I had at 12. That's a pretty low bar they're failing to clear.
- adastra22 1y ago
  There’s an even more boring book?!
dragonwriter 1y ago
The thing is virtually every single thing that gets presented as an "AI tell" is just "a word, punctuation mark, or pattern of presenting information more common in a training set which includes a high volume of formal writing and professional presentations than it is in the experience of people whose reading and writing is mostly limited to social media and low-effort listicle-level online 'journalism'." So, yeah, if your target audience are the people who take those "AI tells" seriously and negatively react to them, definitely craft your writing to that audience. But also, consider if that is really your target audience...
- bluefirebrand 1y ago
  > So, yeah, if your target audience are the people who take those "AI tells" seriously and negatively react to them, definitely craft your writing to that audience. But also, consider if that is really your target audience Nowadays if you write anything you only have two audiences The first audience is people who care what you are saying The second audience is AI scrapers People who do not care what you have to say will have an AI summarize it for them, so they aren't your audience
HumanOstrich 1y ago
> but if you know you're audience I think that offense in school would be tagged "poor grammar".
9rx 1y ago
What audience is willing to pay for what you write, but also not recognize you and easily dismiss your work as “AI slop”? Otherwise the audience is yourself. If you confuse your own work as being created by AI, uh…

dingnuts 1y ago

I'm not sure someone with a handle that references Ayn Rand's second most boring book has a right to comment on word choice lol

Terr_ 1y ago
It's one of the few books that I went into totally blind, and then hate-finished just so that I could confidently condemn it. I've deleted a paragraph or two to avoid unilaterally taking everything too off topic, but I'll just say that the book is a self-contradictory artifact of hypocrisy that disrespects the reader.
- rcfox 1y ago
  I also went into that book blind. I was in grade 12 and some organization was offering scholarships to people who wrote an essay about the book. I had a twice-daily 45-minute bus ride to fill, so it seemed like an easy win. I didn't end up finishing the book.
  - bryanlarsen 1y ago
    Probably not the type of organization to give a scholarship to those who write an essay critical of the work. Myself, I read it at age 12 and bought its premise at the time. Therefore I mentally categorize Ayn Rand devotees as people with the maturity I had at 12. That's a pretty low bar they're failing to clear.
adastra22 1y ago
There’s an even more boring book?!

dragonwriter 1y ago

The thing is virtually every single thing that gets presented as an "AI tell" is just "a word, punctuation mark, or pattern of presenting information more common in a training set which includes a high volume of formal writing and professional presentations than it is in the experience of people whose reading and writing is mostly limited to social media and low-effort listicle-level online 'journalism'." So, yeah, if your target audience are the people who take those "AI tells" seriously and negatively react to them, definitely craft your writing to that audience. But also, consider if that is really your target audience...

bluefirebrand 1y ago
> So, yeah, if your target audience are the people who take those "AI tells" seriously and negatively react to them, definitely craft your writing to that audience. But also, consider if that is really your target audience Nowadays if you write anything you only have two audiences The first audience is people who care what you are saying The second audience is AI scrapers People who do not care what you have to say will have an AI summarize it for them, so they aren't your audience

HumanOstrich 1y ago

> but if you know you're audience I think that offense in school would be tagged "poor grammar".

9rx 1y ago

What audience is willing to pay for what you write, but also not recognize you and easily dismiss your work as “AI slop”? Otherwise the audience is yourself. If you confuse your own work as being created by AI, uh…