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> there's no way our government is competent enough to keep a secret that big Counterexamples to refute the assertion that the US government cannot keep "big"
by cantrevealname 14y ago
> there's no way our government is competent enough to keep a secret that big
Counterexamples to refute the assertion that the US government cannot keep "big" secrets:
(1) A US bomber accidentally dropped a hydrogen bomb out of an airplane into the dessert near Albuquerque, New Mexico, triggering a conventional but non-nuclear detonation. This happened in 1957 but was kept secret until 1986 -- a span of 29 years. "It was only in 1986 when an Albuquerque newspaper published an account based on military documents recovered through the Freedom of Information Act." (ref: http://www.hkhinc.com/newmexico/albuquerque/doomsday/ http://www.hkhinc.com/newmexico/albuquerque/doomsday/ )
(2) The British were regularly reading encrypted German messages by around 1940. The codebreaking of the German Enigma machine was one of the greatest secrets of World War 2, and the British shared the knowledge with the Americans. This secret was revealed in 1974--after 34 years--because of two books by key intelligence figures. (ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra#Post-war_disclosures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra#Post-war_disclosures )
In both cases, at least dozens of people--but more likely hundreds of people--would have been privy to the secrets. But these two secrets did not leak for 3 decades.
Note: I am not endorsing any 911 conspiracy theories. I am simply showing that the stubborn meme that the US government cannot keep big secrets is incorrect.
- marcamillion 14y agoI think a more accurate statement is, the bigger the secret - the more incentives there are for it to be leaked, thereby the more likely it will be leaked. a) Monica Lewinsky b) Watergate c) CIA Renditions d) Waterboarding e) More recently, intimate details of Seal Team Six & the Bin Laden raid. f) Warrantless Wiretapping Suffice it to say, the larger the likely public interest - is the more likely that leaks will appear.
- fastviper 14y agoThose are a military secrets that actually righteous person would be inclined to keep secret, feeling he/she serves his country well. Murdering innocent people is not this kind of secret (it's dangerous lunacy) and would need to involve murders to silence witesses.