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It's time to move Wikipedia from the US to a safer haven

bhouston 1y ago
Moving Wikipedia elsewhere will likely have to happen. Thought, the US may respond by blocking Wikipedia content as many regimes in the past have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia
- dachris 1y ago
  Not to give any ideas, but a likely outcome is a US-based fork that has the offending bias removed, with a "ministry of truth"-y name.
  - bhouston 1y ago
    There is already https://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page https://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page
  - int_19h 1y ago
    This is exactly what Russia did, but said fork is not particularly popular AFAIK.
riffic 1y ago
Sorry for the dismissive tone, but this is a silly reactionary take. It's noise and the hot air is meant to serve as a distraction. Your doomerism isn't helpful.
- bbor 1y ago
  Blatant, open, unabashed authoritarianism is just “noise”…? What red line are you waiting for before acknowledging that we’re in a dangerous situation (aka headed towards doom)?
  - riffic 1y ago
    I'm just as concerned about all this as you are. I guess I just have a bit of faith left in that reason will prevail. I'm cranky but also a perennial optimist.
bbor 1y ago
Real… luckily they can just hop the border into Vancouver - not as safe as Europe or east Asia, but certainly an easier ask. I wonder if they have any dedicated compute stateside, tho…
- perihelions 1y ago
  > "not as safe as Europe" French spooks once detained a randomly-chosen Wikipedia admin and coerced them into using their credentials to delete an article (about French spooks), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5503354 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5503354 ("French homeland intelligence threatens a sysop into deleting a Wikipedia Article (wikimedia.fr)" (2013)—191 comments)
- lenerdenator 1y ago
  I wouldn't put it past the Canadian government to do the same thing. Other Anglosphere governments already have, see Australia and UK.
- bawolff 1y ago
  > I wonder if they have any dedicated compute stateside, tho… Wikipedia has data centers in Virginia, texas and san francisco. (They also have some in other countries)
nostrademons 1y ago
You can just download it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download Downloading Wikipedia is usually a first step for people getting involved in prepping or data-hoarding communities, because it's so much easier than most other websites, and the utility you get from it is pretty large. And the downloads, while fairly large, will still fit on a typical home computer. There are probably tens of thousands of copies, if not more, floating around.
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Moving Wikipedia elsewhere will likely have to happen. Thought, the US may respond by blocking Wikipedia content as many regimes in the past have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia

dachris 1y ago
Not to give any ideas, but a likely outcome is a US-based fork that has the offending bias removed, with a "ministry of truth"-y name.
- bhouston 1y ago
  There is already https://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page https://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page
- int_19h 1y ago
  This is exactly what Russia did, but said fork is not particularly popular AFAIK.

riffic 1y ago

Sorry for the dismissive tone, but this is a silly reactionary take. It's noise and the hot air is meant to serve as a distraction. Your doomerism isn't helpful.

bbor 1y ago
Blatant, open, unabashed authoritarianism is just “noise”…? What red line are you waiting for before acknowledging that we’re in a dangerous situation (aka headed towards doom)?
- riffic 1y ago
  I'm just as concerned about all this as you are. I guess I just have a bit of faith left in that reason will prevail. I'm cranky but also a perennial optimist.

bbor 1y ago

Real… luckily they can just hop the border into Vancouver - not as safe as Europe or east Asia, but certainly an easier ask. I wonder if they have any dedicated compute stateside, tho…

perihelions 1y ago
> "not as safe as Europe" French spooks once detained a randomly-chosen Wikipedia admin and coerced them into using their credentials to delete an article (about French spooks), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5503354 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5503354 ("French homeland intelligence threatens a sysop into deleting a Wikipedia Article (wikimedia.fr)" (2013)—191 comments)
lenerdenator 1y ago
I wouldn't put it past the Canadian government to do the same thing. Other Anglosphere governments already have, see Australia and UK.
bawolff 1y ago
> I wonder if they have any dedicated compute stateside, tho… Wikipedia has data centers in Virginia, texas and san francisco. (They also have some in other countries)

nostrademons 1y ago

You can just download it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download Downloading Wikipedia is usually a first step for people getting involved in prepping or data-hoarding communities, because it's so much easier than most other websites, and the utility you get from it is pretty large. And the downloads, while fairly large, will still fit on a typical home computer. There are probably tens of thousands of copies, if not more, floating around.

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