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Homosexuality was in the DSM. As was hysteria. Because they looked at clusters of symptoms, rather than actual causes. Precisely my point. As for ADHD etc; y
by moi2388 1y ago
Homosexuality was in the DSM. As was hysteria.
Because they looked at clusters of symptoms, rather than actual causes.
Precisely my point.
As for ADHD etc; you do realise they changed the treatments and clustering precisely because of insight in physical processes?!
- dns_snek 1y agoThose things make it flawed, not worthless. Your "precise" point was that the DSM-5 is worthless, please don't move the goalposts now.
- moi2388 1y agoNow you are moving the goalpost. I said that the DSM when not providing the underlying physical processes is worthless. I stand by that. In fact, historically whenever they did this they caused a lot of harm.
- dns_snek 1y ago> Now you are moving the goalpost I would beg to disagree: "The DSM is a bunch of nonsense. As long as [...], it’s worthless." > DSM when not providing the underlying physical processes is worthless. And when does the DSM ever provide the "underlying physical process"? It certainly doesn't for ADHD or any other chapters I happen to have read, which would make them worthless according to your criteria despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And while I haven't read all 1000 pages of the DSM because it's not exactly my idea of a good time, I don't think it provides that kind of information in any chapter because we simply don't understand these disorders to that extent, as your original comment correctly observed.