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As long as they don't start with Apple. They can first force Sony to let us run anything on the PS5, then go for Nintendo and Switch, after that Microsoft and

As long as they don't start with Apple. They can first force Sony to let us run anything on the PS5, then go for Nintendo and Switch, after that Microsoft and the Xbox. All three are more generic computers than any Apple mobile device and are purely walled gardens where we can't run whatever we want.

theshrike79 1y ago
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- tomhow 1y ago
  Downvoting to express disagreement has always been fine on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171
etra0 1y ago
> As long as they don't start with Apple. I guess it's just as good as any other of the vendors you mentioned. I don't see why we shouldn't start with Apple but at the same time I don't think anyone opposes to the other companies being forced too. At least I know I would like to run personalized software on my Switch without having to rooting it by other 'ways'.
- burnerthrow008 1y ago
  > but at the same time I don't think anyone opposes to the other companies being forced too. How can you say that with a straight face? The EU opposes other companies being forced to! That’s why they wrote their DMA the way they did!
rstat1 1y ago
>>All three are more generic computers than any Apple mobile device and are purely walled gardens where we can't run whatever we want. No they aren't. Game consoles are designed for a singular purpose. Apple's mobile devices are not singular purpose. I guess their watch might be? but that's the closest you'd get IMO.
- legostormtroopr 1y ago
  The Xbox, Switch and PS5 play games, but they all allow you to install apps, stream movies, buy movies, stream audio and join fitness classes. They also have chat apps and you can stream your own games to places like twitch for others to watch. And through simple steps they all have browsers you can load web pages on. If a mobile phone is a computer, a game console is a computer.
- nozzlegear 1y ago
  Before I bought our first Apple TV, my Xbox One was dutifully fulfilling its role as our household's primary YouTube and Netflix streaming machine. It wasn't playing video games at all.
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- burnerthrow008 1y ago
  So if Apple limited what you can do with an iPhone even more, then you’d be ok with the walled garden?
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theshrike79 1y ago

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tomhow 1y ago
Downvoting to express disagreement has always been fine on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171

etra0 1y ago

> As long as they don't start with Apple. I guess it's just as good as any other of the vendors you mentioned. I don't see why we shouldn't start with Apple but at the same time I don't think anyone opposes to the other companies being forced too. At least I know I would like to run personalized software on my Switch without having to rooting it by other 'ways'.

burnerthrow008 1y ago
> but at the same time I don't think anyone opposes to the other companies being forced too. How can you say that with a straight face? The EU opposes other companies being forced to! That’s why they wrote their DMA the way they did!

rstat1 1y ago

>>All three are more generic computers than any Apple mobile device and are purely walled gardens where we can't run whatever we want. No they aren't. Game consoles are designed for a singular purpose. Apple's mobile devices are not singular purpose. I guess their watch might be? but that's the closest you'd get IMO.

legostormtroopr 1y ago
The Xbox, Switch and PS5 play games, but they all allow you to install apps, stream movies, buy movies, stream audio and join fitness classes. They also have chat apps and you can stream your own games to places like twitch for others to watch. And through simple steps they all have browsers you can load web pages on. If a mobile phone is a computer, a game console is a computer.
nozzlegear 1y ago
Before I bought our first Apple TV, my Xbox One was dutifully fulfilling its role as our household's primary YouTube and Netflix streaming machine. It wasn't playing video games at all.
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burnerthrow008 1y ago
So if Apple limited what you can do with an iPhone even more, then you’d be ok with the walled garden?
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