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I don't even want linux to be mainstream.. this will inevitably lead to more for-profit enshittification of the ecosystem..

by zb3 1y ago

deater 1y ago
it's already happened. So many of the main contributors work for IBM, Microsoft, and Intel. It's extremely difficult to have your voice heard / patches accepted if you're just a hobbyist developer I've gone to the extreme of writing my own OS because I got fed up with how corporate Linux has gotten
lawlessone 1y ago
how?
- bongodongobob 1y ago
  Ubuntu is a great example, paid security updates. Still in the process of moving my work servers over to Debian.
  - lawlessone 1y ago
    oh god yeah
lenerdenator 1y ago
The way that happens is if you don't make the ethos of Linux mainstream. It can't just be a means to an end; that's what happened to Android. You make it an expectation that everything on a given box be FLOSS.
- nbngeorcjhe 1y ago
  tbh I can't see that ever happening, the average person is never going to care whether their software is free or not (or even know what that means)
pengwinhayden 1y ago
Some of us are old enough to remember Corel Linux. It was about as mainstream as Linux could have gotten. It shipped with WordPerfect Office, which was still neck and neck with Microsoft Office at the time, including WordPerfect, Quattro, Corel Presentations, Corel Draw, all there. It had migration tools to move Internet Explorer, Netscape, Outlook, mIRC, and ICQ settings, and Windows registry settings to Corel Linux. It shipped with a Wine-based Windows application compatibility layer out of the box. It lasted less than a year.
- dsr_ 1y ago
  When your unique selling proposition is that you are just like Windows, but cheaper, you end up with a lot of customers who are expecting 100% Windows behavior. For desktop Linux to be successful, it needs to be the cool different OS -- not the boring Windows that the accountants use, and not the MacOS that the art snobs and marketing hipsters use, but something appealing on its own merits. And, arguably, that's about where it is now: 70% boring, 15% commercial hipster, 15% indie.
DonHopkins 1y ago
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I don't even want linux to be mainstream.. this will inevitably lead to more for-profit enshittification of the ecosystem..

by zb3 1y ago

I don't even want linux to be mainstream.. this will inevitably lead to more for-profit enshittification of the ecosystem..

deater 1y ago

it's already happened. So many of the main contributors work for IBM, Microsoft, and Intel. It's extremely difficult to have your voice heard / patches accepted if you're just a hobbyist developer I've gone to the extreme of writing my own OS because I got fed up with how corporate Linux has gotten

lawlessone 1y ago

how?

bongodongobob 1y ago
Ubuntu is a great example, paid security updates. Still in the process of moving my work servers over to Debian.
- lawlessone 1y ago
  oh god yeah

lenerdenator 1y ago

The way that happens is if you don't make the ethos of Linux mainstream. It can't just be a means to an end; that's what happened to Android. You make it an expectation that everything on a given box be FLOSS.

nbngeorcjhe 1y ago
tbh I can't see that ever happening, the average person is never going to care whether their software is free or not (or even know what that means)

pengwinhayden 1y ago

Some of us are old enough to remember Corel Linux. It was about as mainstream as Linux could have gotten. It shipped with WordPerfect Office, which was still neck and neck with Microsoft Office at the time, including WordPerfect, Quattro, Corel Presentations, Corel Draw, all there. It had migration tools to move Internet Explorer, Netscape, Outlook, mIRC, and ICQ settings, and Windows registry settings to Corel Linux. It shipped with a Wine-based Windows application compatibility layer out of the box. It lasted less than a year.

dsr_ 1y ago
When your unique selling proposition is that you are just like Windows, but cheaper, you end up with a lot of customers who are expecting 100% Windows behavior. For desktop Linux to be successful, it needs to be the cool different OS -- not the boring Windows that the accountants use, and not the MacOS that the art snobs and marketing hipsters use, but something appealing on its own merits. And, arguably, that's about where it is now: 70% boring, 15% commercial hipster, 15% indie.

DonHopkins 1y ago

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