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I have some MAGA-leaning family and professional acquaintances. Here is what I hear from them: > I doubt they voted for _this_. They most certainly did. Firs

by csa 1y ago

I have some MAGA-leaning family and professional acquaintances. Here is what I hear from them: > I doubt they voted for _this_. They most certainly did. First, they love the retention of the tax cuts and the OBBB. Second, they were repulsed by most/all things that liberals embraced: DEI, language police, gender topics, loose immigration policy, an obviously over the hill Biden, perceived weakness abroad (Afghanistan, Ukraine, Israel/Gaza), etc. > They voted for a vague promise of a better life through some cool sounding measures, at the time. Ehhh… I don’t think so. They wanted tax cuts and anything that was the opposite of liberal social policy. They got it. As for the people who didn’t vote, I’m not sure anything has changed that would get them out to vote for an opponent to Trump (Biden, Kamala, or whoever other milquetoast candidate lined up). > Now that people are starting to realize the demon they have given full power to, I doubt he would win another (unrigged) election. I think he wins by more if the election is tomorrow. Large swathes of the monied classes in the US are largely ok with the direction things are going. Tariffs, harassment of immigrants, neutering the federal government, and chaotic diplomacy just seem like unfortunate collateral damage to them. Imho, the US is in the midst of a constitutional crisis. If the Dems or some other group don’t approach 2028 accordingly, they may be watching from the sidelines again for who knows how many more years.

pandemic_region 1y ago
That's really sad to hear, in a way. I don't judge the choices people make, but it seems many have gone sour - for lack of a better word. This is something that was in the makings for many years then, people generally not happy with US politics and the way the country is doing things. But T is not the answer long term.
- csa 1y ago
  > But T is not the answer long term. Imho, “T” only has enough gas in the tank to enrich himself and his family by any means necessary while protecting the same group from legal consequences. The real question is whether p2025 is the answer. The deafening indifference to p2025 makes me think that this is the direction we will be moving for a while — likely past 2028 if an opposition party does not create a compelling and unified response.

by csa 1y ago

pandemic_region 1y ago

That's really sad to hear, in a way. I don't judge the choices people make, but it seems many have gone sour - for lack of a better word. This is something that was in the makings for many years then, people generally not happy with US politics and the way the country is doing things. But T is not the answer long term.

csa 1y ago
> But T is not the answer long term. Imho, “T” only has enough gas in the tank to enrich himself and his family by any means necessary while protecting the same group from legal consequences. The real question is whether p2025 is the answer. The deafening indifference to p2025 makes me think that this is the direction we will be moving for a while — likely past 2028 if an opposition party does not create a compelling and unified response.