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I can acknowledge many facts, but since you seem to dodge that really big one I don't think we can have a productive discussion here. Talking about rationality

by hobs 1y ago

I can acknowledge many facts, but since you seem to dodge that really big one I don't think we can have a productive discussion here. Talking about rationality in that context of what appears to be motivated thinking is ... interesting.

goosejuice 1y ago
Do you think that you're sharing new information? That arguably the most hated man in America has consistently over promised and under delivered? It would be a little difficult to miss that over the last ten years. I find it rather sad that the work of so many talented engineers is simply dismissed because they'd rather talk about that clown. You'd think HN could at least separate the two. There's a whole lot of people here working for a billionaire shit head.
- breve 1y ago
  The work of many talented engineers at Tesla is dismissed by Musk: https://archive.md/QJQ3r https://archive.md/QJQ3r Some engineers have become so corrupted by the culture of lying of Tesla that they're willing to lie about things that there's no need to lie about, like quarter mile times of the Cybertruck: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-cybertruck-beast-vs-porsche-911-carrera-t-drag-race-towing-rematch https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-cybertruck-beast-vs... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3H8--CQRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3H8--CQRE The lead engineer on the Cybertruck sadly tried to defend the lie, while admitting that they never even ran that quarter mile: https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551 https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551
  - goosejuice 1y ago
    And yet you and many others can't step back from the controversy for one second and discuss the engineering. Every single discussion around autonomous vehicles is poisoned by it.
    - breve 1y ago
      The engineering is compromised by Tesla's culture of lying: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45062614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45062614 Tesla engineers will be best off moving to another company.

by hobs 1y ago

goosejuice 1y ago

Do you think that you're sharing new information? That arguably the most hated man in America has consistently over promised and under delivered? It would be a little difficult to miss that over the last ten years. I find it rather sad that the work of so many talented engineers is simply dismissed because they'd rather talk about that clown. You'd think HN could at least separate the two. There's a whole lot of people here working for a billionaire shit head.

breve 1y ago
The work of many talented engineers at Tesla is dismissed by Musk: https://archive.md/QJQ3r https://archive.md/QJQ3r Some engineers have become so corrupted by the culture of lying of Tesla that they're willing to lie about things that there's no need to lie about, like quarter mile times of the Cybertruck: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-cybertruck-beast-vs-porsche-911-carrera-t-drag-race-towing-rematch https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-cybertruck-beast-vs... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3H8--CQRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3H8--CQRE The lead engineer on the Cybertruck sadly tried to defend the lie, while admitting that they never even ran that quarter mile: https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551 https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551
- goosejuice 1y ago
  And yet you and many others can't step back from the controversy for one second and discuss the engineering. Every single discussion around autonomous vehicles is poisoned by it.
  - breve 1y ago
    The engineering is compromised by Tesla's culture of lying: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45062614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45062614 Tesla engineers will be best off moving to another company.