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I found Bluesky to be extremely hostile to AI and mostly far leftists canabalizing each other. I don’t see it as sustainable and fewer people are using it. X i

I found Bluesky to be extremely hostile to AI and mostly far leftists canabalizing each other. I don’t see it as sustainable and fewer people are using it. X is undoubtedly worse but Bluesky doesn’t appear to be the answer.

zzzeek 1y ago
im there, I use Claude every day, am not a far leftist. come on over and there will be two of us.
zahlman 1y ago
That's been my experience of most Mastodon instances, too (except the ones explicitly created to counter that, which don't tend to get much traction).
Finnucane 1y ago
I follow some actual far-leftists on Mastodon, and they would probably find your assessment of Bluesky to be pretty funny.
cosmic_cheese 1y ago
I don’t know that “AI hostile” is quite accurate. It’s more like it’s not blindly accepted and praised, which is different. Generally any hostility comes down to cases where it’s replacing or could replace people instead of bringing a new capabilities to the table — AI helping detect cancer or discover new treatments for example is a lot more accepted than AI taking the jobs of book cover illustrators, for example. That… kind of makes sense? It’s logical that applications with significant downside, particularly that which impacts peoples’ livelihood, would get greater questioning and pushback. If anything I’d call into question a platform where nobody is asking these questions and wants to charge ahead with zero regard to potential ramifications.
- epistasis 1y ago
  There's a big difference between the grifters in AI and the builders. Grifters of all sorts quickly get pigeonholed in Bluesky off into separate communities. There are some builders of AI on BlueSky but far fewer. It's mostly the other sciences that have migrated, because X actively suppressed that type of content on X. Its not uncommon for a Bluesky scientist to have 10x the engagement on Bluesky with a tiny fraction of the followers.
  - cosmic_cheese 1y ago
    > There are some builders of AI on BlueSky but far fewer. It's mostly the other sciences that have migrated, because X actively suppressed that type of content on X. Its not uncommon for a Bluesky scientist to have 10x the engagement on Bluesky with a tiny fraction of the followers. I’ve seen similar patterns with some technical subcommunities on Mastodon. Low follower numbers but vastly higher engagement and overall better signal to noise ratio in the replies. Maybe instead of there being one big platform, communities will settle into different ones.
- octernion 1y ago
  i just went on, searched bsky for variants of ai/llm/generative, and literally did not see one positive post after scrolling for several minutes (beyond some boring generative art slop, which isn't really "positive" imo). it seems just the same sycophancy, but in the opposite way twitter is. maybe my searches were poor so i'm curious what you see that is in any way "positive"; even given your example, searching for ai + cancer is just thousands of posts with some variant of "ai is a cancer." it's so single note that it's no wonder that growth for bluesky has plummeted. it's just boring.
anonzzzies 1y ago
I don't have that experience. But perhaps I am far less forgiving of the christofacist community on twitter that seeps through EVEN though I follow not one of them and none follow me. It's easier to read past the artsy crowd for me at least even if I don't agree. But AI hostile? Guess it depends if you don't post AI 'artwork' all day but just interesting things you are doing then I have not seen anyone complain.
- cosmic_cheese 1y ago
  The replies are what make it hardest to remain on xitter. You’ll tap into some totally innocuous post and randomly get hit with a reply that’s nasty by even shady imageboard standards.

zzzeek 1y ago

im there, I use Claude every day, am not a far leftist. come on over and there will be two of us.

zahlman 1y ago

That's been my experience of most Mastodon instances, too (except the ones explicitly created to counter that, which don't tend to get much traction).

Finnucane 1y ago

I follow some actual far-leftists on Mastodon, and they would probably find your assessment of Bluesky to be pretty funny.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago

I don’t know that “AI hostile” is quite accurate. It’s more like it’s not blindly accepted and praised, which is different. Generally any hostility comes down to cases where it’s replacing or could replace people instead of bringing a new capabilities to the table — AI helping detect cancer or discover new treatments for example is a lot more accepted than AI taking the jobs of book cover illustrators, for example. That… kind of makes sense? It’s logical that applications with significant downside, particularly that which impacts peoples’ livelihood, would get greater questioning and pushback. If anything I’d call into question a platform where nobody is asking these questions and wants to charge ahead with zero regard to potential ramifications.

epistasis 1y ago
There's a big difference between the grifters in AI and the builders. Grifters of all sorts quickly get pigeonholed in Bluesky off into separate communities. There are some builders of AI on BlueSky but far fewer. It's mostly the other sciences that have migrated, because X actively suppressed that type of content on X. Its not uncommon for a Bluesky scientist to have 10x the engagement on Bluesky with a tiny fraction of the followers.
- cosmic_cheese 1y ago
  > There are some builders of AI on BlueSky but far fewer. It's mostly the other sciences that have migrated, because X actively suppressed that type of content on X. Its not uncommon for a Bluesky scientist to have 10x the engagement on Bluesky with a tiny fraction of the followers. I’ve seen similar patterns with some technical subcommunities on Mastodon. Low follower numbers but vastly higher engagement and overall better signal to noise ratio in the replies. Maybe instead of there being one big platform, communities will settle into different ones.
octernion 1y ago
i just went on, searched bsky for variants of ai/llm/generative, and literally did not see one positive post after scrolling for several minutes (beyond some boring generative art slop, which isn't really "positive" imo). it seems just the same sycophancy, but in the opposite way twitter is. maybe my searches were poor so i'm curious what you see that is in any way "positive"; even given your example, searching for ai + cancer is just thousands of posts with some variant of "ai is a cancer." it's so single note that it's no wonder that growth for bluesky has plummeted. it's just boring.

anonzzzies 1y ago

I don't have that experience. But perhaps I am far less forgiving of the christofacist community on twitter that seeps through EVEN though I follow not one of them and none follow me. It's easier to read past the artsy crowd for me at least even if I don't agree. But AI hostile? Guess it depends if you don't post AI 'artwork' all day but just interesting things you are doing then I have not seen anyone complain.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago
The replies are what make it hardest to remain on xitter. You’ll tap into some totally innocuous post and randomly get hit with a reply that’s nasty by even shady imageboard standards.