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One thing about suicide is I'm pretty sure for as many people that get stopped in the last moment there are many for which the tiny thing could've stopped them,

by vasco 1y ago

One thing about suicide is I'm pretty sure for as many people that get stopped in the last moment there are many for which the tiny thing could've stopped them, didn't. The same way seeing a hotline might save one person, to another it'll make no difference and seeing a happy family on the street will be the trigger for them to kill themselves. In our sadness we try to find things to blame in the tools the person used just before, or to perform the act, but it's just sad. Nobody blames a bridge, but it has as much fault as anything else.

podgietaru 1y ago
There was a fascinating article I read a while back about Sylvia Plath, and the idea that she likely wouldn't have commited suicide a few years later due to the removal of that method. It was mostly about the access of guns in the US, and the role that plays in suicidality. I cannot for the life of me find it, but I believe it was based on this paper: https://drexel.edu/~/media/Files/law/law%20review/V17-3/Gould%20919-969.ashx https://drexel.edu/~/media/Files/law/law%20review/V17-3/Goul... Which was summarised by NPR here: https://www.npr.org/2008/07/08/92319314/in-suicide-prevention-its-method-not-madness https://www.npr.org/2008/07/08/92319314/in-suicide-preventio... When it comes to suicide, it's a complicated topic. There was also the incident with 13 reasons why. Showing suicide in media also grants permission structures to those who are in that state, and actually increases the rate of suicide in the general population. Where I lie on this is there is a modicum of responsibility that companies need to have. Making access harder to that information ABSOLUTELY saves lives, when it comes to asking how. And giving easy access to suicide prevention resources can also help.
- maxweylandt 1y ago
  another example: packing paracetamol in blister packs seems to have reduced suicides. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC526120/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC526120/ > Suicidal deaths from paracetamol and salicylates were reduced by 22% (95% confidence interval 11% to 32%) in the year after the change in legislation on 16 September 1998, and this reduction persisted in the next two years. Liver unit admissions and liver transplants for paracetamol induced hepatotoxicity were reduced by around 30% in the four years after the legislation. (This was posted here on HN in the thread on the new paracetamol in utero study that I can't seem to dig up right now)

by vasco 1y ago

podgietaru 1y ago

There was a fascinating article I read a while back about Sylvia Plath, and the idea that she likely wouldn't have commited suicide a few years later due to the removal of that method. It was mostly about the access of guns in the US, and the role that plays in suicidality. I cannot for the life of me find it, but I believe it was based on this paper: https://drexel.edu/~/media/Files/law/law%20review/V17-3/Gould%20919-969.ashx https://drexel.edu/~/media/Files/law/law%20review/V17-3/Goul... Which was summarised by NPR here: https://www.npr.org/2008/07/08/92319314/in-suicide-prevention-its-method-not-madness https://www.npr.org/2008/07/08/92319314/in-suicide-preventio... When it comes to suicide, it's a complicated topic. There was also the incident with 13 reasons why. Showing suicide in media also grants permission structures to those who are in that state, and actually increases the rate of suicide in the general population. Where I lie on this is there is a modicum of responsibility that companies need to have. Making access harder to that information ABSOLUTELY saves lives, when it comes to asking how. And giving easy access to suicide prevention resources can also help.

maxweylandt 1y ago
another example: packing paracetamol in blister packs seems to have reduced suicides. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC526120/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC526120/ > Suicidal deaths from paracetamol and salicylates were reduced by 22% (95% confidence interval 11% to 32%) in the year after the change in legislation on 16 September 1998, and this reduction persisted in the next two years. Liver unit admissions and liver transplants for paracetamol induced hepatotoxicity were reduced by around 30% in the four years after the legislation. (This was posted here on HN in the thread on the new paracetamol in utero study that I can't seem to dig up right now)