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Thanks Jesus it's Intel and not Apple, Intel has been extremely good at working upstream and has immense contributions in the Linux kernel, mesa, and elsewhere.

Thanks Jesus it's Intel and not Apple, Intel has been extremely good at working upstream and has immense contributions in the Linux kernel, mesa, and elsewhere. Wasting such talent on Apple would make the world worse for us all.

MangoToupe 1y ago
I don't see a future for intel, frankly, but I'm very happy she found a good paying job.
- tlamponi 1y ago
  There was a time when people said that about AMD. Don't get me wrong, Intel's outlook is IMO currently indeed rather bleak, but I would not completely write it off just yet.
  - CharlesW 1y ago
    > There was a time when people said that about AMD. And Apple, to complete the circle.
  - MangoToupe 1y ago
    AMD is equally fucked. Building off of IP-locked architectures is just a graveyard. Even apple will hit a wall one day.
    - Incipient 1y ago
      There are a myriad of companies that have thrived in "IP locked" environments, a host that have failed too. Equally there are heaps that have thrived and failed in "IP open" environments. I think at best you could say it's more challenging or perhaps risky being a bit restricted with IP, but I'd call it miles away from a "graveyard". You can hardly call Intel/amd/qualcomm etc all struggling due to the architectures being locked down. Look at powerpc/Isa. It's (entirely?) open and hasn't really done any better than x86. Fundamentally you're going to be tied to backwards compatibility to some extent. You're limited to evolution, not revolution. And I don't think x86 had failed to evolve? (eg avx10 is very new)
koakuma-chan 1y ago
Why? Apple makes good products. It seems, unlike Intel.
- jandrese 1y ago
  Apple doesn’t contribute back to the community.
- kccqzy 1y ago
  Apple doesn't have any contributions to the Linux kernel or other parts of the Linux graphics stack. They are unlikely to hire someone who wants to work on open source.
  - jajuuka 1y ago
    To be fair they don't have anything to do with Linux so there is nothing to contribute back towards. They use BSD licensed software for a reason. Apple does have open source projects. https://opensource.apple.com https://opensource.apple.com But the scope is rather limited. For someone of Alyssa's skillset there really isn't anything there.
  - MangoToupe 1y ago
    Sure but linux isn't necessary. Legacy software can be virtualized
- dylan604 1y ago
  Apple hiring her would essentially prevent her from doing it again on other models keeping the moat intact
qingcharles 1y ago
Intel seem to be pretty good in the .Net framework too, pushing a bunch of performance upgrades.

MangoToupe 1y ago

I don't see a future for intel, frankly, but I'm very happy she found a good paying job.

tlamponi 1y ago
There was a time when people said that about AMD. Don't get me wrong, Intel's outlook is IMO currently indeed rather bleak, but I would not completely write it off just yet.
- CharlesW 1y ago
  > There was a time when people said that about AMD. And Apple, to complete the circle.
- MangoToupe 1y ago
  AMD is equally fucked. Building off of IP-locked architectures is just a graveyard. Even apple will hit a wall one day.
  - Incipient 1y ago
    There are a myriad of companies that have thrived in "IP locked" environments, a host that have failed too. Equally there are heaps that have thrived and failed in "IP open" environments. I think at best you could say it's more challenging or perhaps risky being a bit restricted with IP, but I'd call it miles away from a "graveyard". You can hardly call Intel/amd/qualcomm etc all struggling due to the architectures being locked down. Look at powerpc/Isa. It's (entirely?) open and hasn't really done any better than x86. Fundamentally you're going to be tied to backwards compatibility to some extent. You're limited to evolution, not revolution. And I don't think x86 had failed to evolve? (eg avx10 is very new)

koakuma-chan 1y ago

Why? Apple makes good products. It seems, unlike Intel.

jandrese 1y ago
Apple doesn’t contribute back to the community.
kccqzy 1y ago
Apple doesn't have any contributions to the Linux kernel or other parts of the Linux graphics stack. They are unlikely to hire someone who wants to work on open source.
- jajuuka 1y ago
  To be fair they don't have anything to do with Linux so there is nothing to contribute back towards. They use BSD licensed software for a reason. Apple does have open source projects. https://opensource.apple.com https://opensource.apple.com But the scope is rather limited. For someone of Alyssa's skillset there really isn't anything there.
- MangoToupe 1y ago
  Sure but linux isn't necessary. Legacy software can be virtualized
dylan604 1y ago
Apple hiring her would essentially prevent her from doing it again on other models keeping the moat intact

qingcharles 1y ago

Intel seem to be pretty good in the .Net framework too, pushing a bunch of performance upgrades.