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Terminal sessions you can bookmark

86 points by imsnif 1y ago

FlyingBobcat 1y ago
This looks really nice, too bad I can't use it because my company blocks websockets.
- quantummagic 1y ago
  If you have any sort of VPN into the target machine (ssh+port-forwarding, Wireguard, etc) no websocket would be visible on the network.
thrown-0825-1 1y ago
was working on something similar to this last week, but i ended up going with SSE instead of websockets for the control channel. the goal was to use webauthn to authenticate ssh sessions from the browser with a charm/wish ssh app backend.
ingen0s 1y ago
Total inspiration, thanks bud.
nextaccountic 1y ago
iTerm2 has a feature where it can display tmux tabs as native tabs [0] which is called tmux control mode [1] (most other terminal emulators haven't picked up this feature [2], but I wish they did). Would it make sense for Zellij to also support the tmux control mode protocol, and interoperate with terminal emulators that support it? Another thing (less ambitious): is it possible to have an option to integrate with native scrolling? Like shpool [3] does. I suppose it's not possible to enable it by default since it has a frame around the session, but maybe this frame could be disabled if I want native scrolling back? Native scrolling helps mainly with navigating by clicking on the native scrollbar that most terminal emulators have (mouse scrolling works on Zellij though, which is very cool). [0] https://iterm2.com/documentation-tmux-integration.html https://iterm2.com/documentation-tmux-integration.html [1] https://github.com/tmux/tmux/wiki/Control-Mode https://github.com/tmux/tmux/wiki/Control-Mode [2] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/189805/what-terminal-emulators-support-tmux-control-mode https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/189805/what-termina... [3] https://github.com/shell-pool/shpool https://github.com/shell-pool/shpool
- imsnif 1y ago
  For 1 - there's actually a nice proposal from WezTerm to make this an all-purpose general protocol that I hope happens: https://github.com/wezterm/wezterm/discussions/4889 https://github.com/wezterm/wezterm/discussions/4889 For 2 - I think this can be achieved with scroll vertical/horizontal scroll regions (which should also boost performance a bit). I hope to implement this in the future.
tiffanyh 1y ago
Does anyone else feel uneasy about a terminal extending your desktop/server’s exposure beyond its current attack surface?
- mtndew4brkfst 1y ago
  Very very much so. The project also includes separate binary releases with this feature compiled out altogether, but I'd much rather this sort of feature was never ideated or acted upon in this first place. Generally speaking I don't want a terminal multiplexer to be doing network IO of any sort, so I also didn't love it when they shipped "load WASM plugins from a non-checksummed arbitrary URL via your config file" in a previous release.
imsnif 1y ago
Hi all, I'm the author of this article. Happy to answer any questions.
- veidr 1y ago
  Not a question, but Zellij is awesome! This looks like a great new feature, too. :)
- _1tem 1y ago
  Can I use this as an alternative to VibeTunnel? Throw this up on a server and control remote SSH sessions of Claude Code over Tailscale?
  - imsnif 1y ago
    Yes! With built in authentication.

86 points by imsnif 1y ago

FlyingBobcat 1y ago

This looks really nice, too bad I can't use it because my company blocks websockets.

quantummagic 1y ago
If you have any sort of VPN into the target machine (ssh+port-forwarding, Wireguard, etc) no websocket would be visible on the network.

thrown-0825-1 1y ago

was working on something similar to this last week, but i ended up going with SSE instead of websockets for the control channel. the goal was to use webauthn to authenticate ssh sessions from the browser with a charm/wish ssh app backend.

ingen0s 1y ago

Total inspiration, thanks bud.

nextaccountic 1y ago

iTerm2 has a feature where it can display tmux tabs as native tabs [0] which is called tmux control mode [1] (most other terminal emulators haven't picked up this feature [2], but I wish they did). Would it make sense for Zellij to also support the tmux control mode protocol, and interoperate with terminal emulators that support it? Another thing (less ambitious): is it possible to have an option to integrate with native scrolling? Like shpool [3] does. I suppose it's not possible to enable it by default since it has a frame around the session, but maybe this frame could be disabled if I want native scrolling back? Native scrolling helps mainly with navigating by clicking on the native scrollbar that most terminal emulators have (mouse scrolling works on Zellij though, which is very cool). [0] https://iterm2.com/documentation-tmux-integration.html https://iterm2.com/documentation-tmux-integration.html [1] https://github.com/tmux/tmux/wiki/Control-Mode https://github.com/tmux/tmux/wiki/Control-Mode [2] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/189805/what-terminal-emulators-support-tmux-control-mode https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/189805/what-termina... [3] https://github.com/shell-pool/shpool https://github.com/shell-pool/shpool

imsnif 1y ago
For 1 - there's actually a nice proposal from WezTerm to make this an all-purpose general protocol that I hope happens: https://github.com/wezterm/wezterm/discussions/4889 https://github.com/wezterm/wezterm/discussions/4889 For 2 - I think this can be achieved with scroll vertical/horizontal scroll regions (which should also boost performance a bit). I hope to implement this in the future.

tiffanyh 1y ago

Does anyone else feel uneasy about a terminal extending your desktop/server’s exposure beyond its current attack surface?

mtndew4brkfst 1y ago
Very very much so. The project also includes separate binary releases with this feature compiled out altogether, but I'd much rather this sort of feature was never ideated or acted upon in this first place. Generally speaking I don't want a terminal multiplexer to be doing network IO of any sort, so I also didn't love it when they shipped "load WASM plugins from a non-checksummed arbitrary URL via your config file" in a previous release.

imsnif 1y ago

Hi all, I'm the author of this article. Happy to answer any questions.

veidr 1y ago
Not a question, but Zellij is awesome! This looks like a great new feature, too. :)
_1tem 1y ago
Can I use this as an alternative to VibeTunnel? Throw this up on a server and control remote SSH sessions of Claude Code over Tailscale?
- imsnif 1y ago
  Yes! With built in authentication.