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Huh? And what is nationalistic flame bait about it? Speaking as someone living it. There is a reason why depression, anxiety, and a host of other issues have e

by lazide 1y ago

Huh? And what is nationalistic flame bait about it? Speaking as someone living it. There is a reason why depression, anxiety, and a host of other issues have escalated for decades, and nationalism has nothing to do with it.

dang 1y ago
Nationalistic flamebait is when someone makes a pejorative generalization about a country, usually in the context of a comment which has little information, but only denunciatory rhetoric. Your GP comment clearly fits that description, as I read it. This is not a borderline call! What happens when people post like that is that others, who have the opposite sympathies, get provoked and feel entitled to respond in kind. Of course, what they feel is "responding in kind" is usually much worse, and thus we end up in a downward spiral. None of this is what HN is for. We want curious conversation here, and that doesn't consist of putting down entire countries, nor of grand generalizations (especially negative ones). Curiosity is much more inclined to look at some interesting or surprising specific about a situation. That's also what the site guidelines ask people to avoid generic tangents (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=generic%20discussion%20by%3Adang%20-flamewars%20-flamewar&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...).
- lazide 1y ago
  As someone who has been here many, many years - this is truly mystifying to me. And not just me, apparently. And also notably, no one responded that way to that comment. But sure, it’s your show.
  - dang 1y ago
    > no one responded that way to that comment You're right, but we have to moderate based on how these things work in the general case. > this is truly mystifying to me It's inevitable that there will be different interpretations of specific comments, so I hope you can at least 'upgrade' us to "wrong in this case" and hopefully we will make more sense in the future! p.s. I know what you mean about "it's your show" but we really don't think of this as "our" show - the community is the only thing that's valuable about HN
    - lazide 1y ago
      You can’t have it both ways.
    - lazide 1y ago
      Now I can’t edit my other reply. Acknowledged, and makes sense. Thanks for being a place where I can go ‘huh?’ and not get banned or the like!
      - dang 1y ago
        Part of the game tomhow and I play is seeing how many "huh?" interactions can get resolved sweetly. Answer: not all, but at least some! We're the limiting factor a lot of the time, so there's at least room for improvement.

by lazide 1y ago

dang 1y ago

Nationalistic flamebait is when someone makes a pejorative generalization about a country, usually in the context of a comment which has little information, but only denunciatory rhetoric. Your GP comment clearly fits that description, as I read it. This is not a borderline call! What happens when people post like that is that others, who have the opposite sympathies, get provoked and feel entitled to respond in kind. Of course, what they feel is "responding in kind" is usually much worse, and thus we end up in a downward spiral. None of this is what HN is for. We want curious conversation here, and that doesn't consist of putting down entire countries, nor of grand generalizations (especially negative ones). Curiosity is much more inclined to look at some interesting or surprising specific about a situation. That's also what the site guidelines ask people to avoid generic tangents (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=generic%20discussion%20by%3Adang%20-flamewars%20-flamewar&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...).

lazide 1y ago
As someone who has been here many, many years - this is truly mystifying to me. And not just me, apparently. And also notably, no one responded that way to that comment. But sure, it’s your show.
- dang 1y ago
  > no one responded that way to that comment You're right, but we have to moderate based on how these things work in the general case. > this is truly mystifying to me It's inevitable that there will be different interpretations of specific comments, so I hope you can at least 'upgrade' us to "wrong in this case" and hopefully we will make more sense in the future! p.s. I know what you mean about "it's your show" but we really don't think of this as "our" show - the community is the only thing that's valuable about HN
  - lazide 1y ago
    You can’t have it both ways.
  - lazide 1y ago
    Now I can’t edit my other reply. Acknowledged, and makes sense. Thanks for being a place where I can go ‘huh?’ and not get banned or the like!
    - dang 1y ago
      Part of the game tomhow and I play is seeing how many "huh?" interactions can get resolved sweetly. Answer: not all, but at least some! We're the limiting factor a lot of the time, so there's at least room for improvement.