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https://nypost.com/2025/08/25/opinion/dems-nix-45-woke-words-from-vocab-privilege-birthing-person-latinx-intersectionality-and-more/ https://nypost.com/2025/08/

https://nypost.com/2025/08/25/opinion/dems-nix-45-woke-words-from-vocab-privilege-birthing-person-latinx-intersectionality-and-more/ https://nypost.com/2025/08/25/opinion/dems-nix-45-woke-words...

miltonlost 1y ago
An opinion article from the NY Post. Neat.
- philipallstar 1y ago
  Isn't it better to argue the content than ad hominem the source?
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    Hold on I will have an LLM write a 40-page rebuttal and when you don't read it I'll accuse you of ad homineming the AI.
    - philipallstar 1y ago
      Well, either you've just invalidated the concept of ad hominem being bad, or you haven't. Which is it?
      - cosmicgadget 1y ago
        False dilemma. I have illustrated that distrusting slop and a propaganda magazine isn't ad hominem.
  - RankingMember 1y ago
    That source lost its right to the benefit of the doubt long ago.
    - philipallstar 1y ago
      No benefit of the doubt required. Either read the content and comment on it or don't comment.
      - RankingMember 1y ago
        > Either read the content and comment on it or don't comment. These are not the only two options. Considering the source is always relevant and worthy of comment.
  - anigbrowl 1y ago
    The content is also garbage (I read this a few days ago). They collected examples of the wackiest, most tortured language that they could (phrases like 'birthing person') and ascribed them to Democrats in general as if the party had some sort of crisis of cognition. The truth is that ivory-tower euphemisms like this are not common political currency, but ham-fisted attempts at communication by individuals or tiny groups with little or no political capital. Tabloid trash publications like the NY Post are not honest messengers, but rather seek to amplify things like this using synecdoche to suggest that they're representative of the median Democrat. If the poster above wanted to showcase the underlying ideas, they could have just linked to the Third way website and paraphrased their argument directly, but instead they decided to share the gutter press version. I discount tabloid newspapers the same way I discount left-leaning outlets like Democracy Now! or Truthout - they might be right some of the time but the general level of bias outweighs their utility as providers of factual information, which is readily available from less biased sources.
Mtinie 1y ago
Thank you for sharing. Would you agree that Third Way’s positions and suggestions should be weighted differently than official federal government stances and actions?

https://nypost.com/2025/08/25/opinion/dems-nix-45-woke-words-from-vocab-privilege-birthing-person-latinx-intersectionality-and-more/ https://nypost.com/2025/08/25/opinion/dems-nix-45-woke-words...

miltonlost 1y ago

An opinion article from the NY Post. Neat.

philipallstar 1y ago
Isn't it better to argue the content than ad hominem the source?
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  Hold on I will have an LLM write a 40-page rebuttal and when you don't read it I'll accuse you of ad homineming the AI.
  - philipallstar 1y ago
    Well, either you've just invalidated the concept of ad hominem being bad, or you haven't. Which is it?
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      False dilemma. I have illustrated that distrusting slop and a propaganda magazine isn't ad hominem.
- RankingMember 1y ago
  That source lost its right to the benefit of the doubt long ago.
  - philipallstar 1y ago
    No benefit of the doubt required. Either read the content and comment on it or don't comment.
    - RankingMember 1y ago
      > Either read the content and comment on it or don't comment. These are not the only two options. Considering the source is always relevant and worthy of comment.
- anigbrowl 1y ago
  The content is also garbage (I read this a few days ago). They collected examples of the wackiest, most tortured language that they could (phrases like 'birthing person') and ascribed them to Democrats in general as if the party had some sort of crisis of cognition. The truth is that ivory-tower euphemisms like this are not common political currency, but ham-fisted attempts at communication by individuals or tiny groups with little or no political capital. Tabloid trash publications like the NY Post are not honest messengers, but rather seek to amplify things like this using synecdoche to suggest that they're representative of the median Democrat. If the poster above wanted to showcase the underlying ideas, they could have just linked to the Third way website and paraphrased their argument directly, but instead they decided to share the gutter press version. I discount tabloid newspapers the same way I discount left-leaning outlets like Democracy Now! or Truthout - they might be right some of the time but the general level of bias outweighs their utility as providers of factual information, which is readily available from less biased sources.

Mtinie 1y ago

Thank you for sharing. Would you agree that Third Way’s positions and suggestions should be weighted differently than official federal government stances and actions?