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I don’t understand what you’re even trying to say here. AfD is objectively far more popular in the former east Germany. Look at a map of votes, it’s clear as d

by anthem2025 1y ago

I don’t understand what you’re even trying to say here. AfD is objectively far more popular in the former east Germany. Look at a map of votes, it’s clear as day. The borders are exact. They are not a left wing party, not at all. They are a far right party. It makes sense that the the economically struggling former communist areas would be both more drawn to extreme parties and have a distaste for the left.

wqaatwt 1y ago
> They are not a left wing party, not at all. They are a far right party. They are a populist semi big tent party as well. They are not particularly coherent but there is some overlap between some of their policies and what some in the far-left might support (Euroscepticism, the Euro and such)
- anthem2025 1y ago
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  - wqaatwt 1y ago
    > erases their literal nazi ideologies If you say so. Seems like a rather incoherent view though… Fact is that there is a lot of overlap between far and far right voters in ex-socialist parts of Eastern Europe. Just compare the supporters of BSW and AFD in Germany.. If you want the most absurd example this was a thing: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party
  - mamonster 1y ago
    AfD is literally a shitty copy-paste of UDC/SVP (Switzerland). Shitty because they lack the one big advantage SVP had in the 90s: Big money backing it. If AfD had at least ONE German billionaire seriously backing it they would already be in power.
  - fooker 1y ago
    > erases No, hence horseshoe theory. You are the one arguing for 'erases' here. Given the horseshoe theory is valid, it seems completely on point for these assholes to have some far left ideas. Doesn't make them not nazis.
    - anthem2025 1y ago
      But horseshoe theory isn’t valid. It’s entirely nonsense. It’s mostly an excuse for centrists to feel morally superior as the results of their useless ideology lead inevitably to fascism.
      - wqaatwt 1y ago
        > But horseshoe theory isn’t valid You keep repeating that yet on certain axis like authoritarianism, free speech etc. there is a massive overlap to the extent that there is based almost no difference in some of the policies supported by far left/right.
adwn 1y ago
> It makes sense that the the economically struggling former communist areas would be both more drawn to extreme parties and have a distaste for the left. That: "have a distaste for the left" is extremely wrong, because before the AfD, the far-left parties which traced their history back to the SED (the socialist party of the GDR (East Germany)) were very popular there, much more so than in West Germany.

wqaatwt 1y ago

> They are not a left wing party, not at all. They are a far right party. They are a populist semi big tent party as well. They are not particularly coherent but there is some overlap between some of their policies and what some in the far-left might support (Euroscepticism, the Euro and such)

anthem2025 1y ago
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- wqaatwt 1y ago
  > erases their literal nazi ideologies If you say so. Seems like a rather incoherent view though… Fact is that there is a lot of overlap between far and far right voters in ex-socialist parts of Eastern Europe. Just compare the supporters of BSW and AFD in Germany.. If you want the most absurd example this was a thing: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party
- mamonster 1y ago
  AfD is literally a shitty copy-paste of UDC/SVP (Switzerland). Shitty because they lack the one big advantage SVP had in the 90s: Big money backing it. If AfD had at least ONE German billionaire seriously backing it they would already be in power.
- fooker 1y ago
  > erases No, hence horseshoe theory. You are the one arguing for 'erases' here. Given the horseshoe theory is valid, it seems completely on point for these assholes to have some far left ideas. Doesn't make them not nazis.
  - anthem2025 1y ago
    But horseshoe theory isn’t valid. It’s entirely nonsense. It’s mostly an excuse for centrists to feel morally superior as the results of their useless ideology lead inevitably to fascism.
    - wqaatwt 1y ago
      > But horseshoe theory isn’t valid You keep repeating that yet on certain axis like authoritarianism, free speech etc. there is a massive overlap to the extent that there is based almost no difference in some of the policies supported by far left/right.

adwn 1y ago

> It makes sense that the the economically struggling former communist areas would be both more drawn to extreme parties and have a distaste for the left. That: "have a distaste for the left" is extremely wrong, because before the AfD, the far-left parties which traced their history back to the SED (the socialist party of the GDR (East Germany)) were very popular there, much more so than in West Germany.