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I think anyone who chooses to undergo the first few trials of a new operation like this, and is informed about the risks, is very brave. I do not know much of a

I think anyone who chooses to undergo the first few trials of a new operation like this, and is informed about the risks, is very brave. I do not know much of anything about medical science, but my impression is that we are still very, very far from having a deep grasp of how both the brain and the immune system work. Ultimately, to the body an implant is simply a foreign object. Many tech professionals work on projects that effect people's lives in very serious ways. But a lot of folk seem to feel a bit of meaninglessness in this career and the threshold of making a mistake isn't very high. If it's an off day, sloppy work yesterday can be fixed with another PR. Building something that is meant to attach to someone's brain would be quite the burden to carry.

ignoramous 1y ago
> Ultimately, to the body an implant is simply a foreign object. I get your point but, there's a lot of foreign objects going in by the way of various pores and openings. Biological beings are surprisingly resilient & fragile at the same time.
- bandrami 1y ago
  Those openings lead to spaces that are not "inside" the body, though. For deuterostomes like humans, the digestive tract is still "outside" in a lot of important ways.
  - Xorakios 1y ago
    Well good golly miss molly, that's a word I had never heard of. Thanks!
    - BaseBaal 1y ago
      For the lazy it basically means as embryos our anus forms before our mouths do. So we have to talk out our asses before we even leave the womb!
- znpy 1y ago
  I think you narfed your own point by using objects getting into various pores and openings. Pacemakers are somewhat similar devices that get implanted into bodies and still effectively are "foreign objects".
- jibal 1y ago
  Not remotely the same thing.
  - ignoramous 1y ago
    Pesticides and micro plastics are equally foreign even if not absorbed/ingested in as one big unit. Besides, in modern medicine, implanting devices in organs (ex: pacemakers, valves, electrodes) isn't unheard of?
alhirzel 1y ago
> would be quite the burden to carry only if you care
maxlin 1y ago
The kind of amount of regulation around this makes me think they are not in that big of a danger, especially as previous devices in this class are way more invasive than Neuralink. I remember that even in their earliest own presentations the width of the "wires" is fraction to previous solutions
- 542354234235 1y ago
  Once again, regulation getting in the way of innovation in the name of "safety". Why can't we just sacrifice the vulnerable so I can think messages to my iPhone!
iamacyborg 1y ago
> I think anyone who chooses to undergo the first few trials of a new operation like this, and is informed about the risks, is very brave. Brave and/or incredibly desperate.

ignoramous 1y ago

> Ultimately, to the body an implant is simply a foreign object. I get your point but, there's a lot of foreign objects going in by the way of various pores and openings. Biological beings are surprisingly resilient & fragile at the same time.

bandrami 1y ago
Those openings lead to spaces that are not "inside" the body, though. For deuterostomes like humans, the digestive tract is still "outside" in a lot of important ways.
- Xorakios 1y ago
  Well good golly miss molly, that's a word I had never heard of. Thanks!
  - BaseBaal 1y ago
    For the lazy it basically means as embryos our anus forms before our mouths do. So we have to talk out our asses before we even leave the womb!
znpy 1y ago
I think you narfed your own point by using objects getting into various pores and openings. Pacemakers are somewhat similar devices that get implanted into bodies and still effectively are "foreign objects".
jibal 1y ago
Not remotely the same thing.
- ignoramous 1y ago
  Pesticides and micro plastics are equally foreign even if not absorbed/ingested in as one big unit. Besides, in modern medicine, implanting devices in organs (ex: pacemakers, valves, electrodes) isn't unheard of?

alhirzel 1y ago

> would be quite the burden to carry only if you care

maxlin 1y ago

The kind of amount of regulation around this makes me think they are not in that big of a danger, especially as previous devices in this class are way more invasive than Neuralink. I remember that even in their earliest own presentations the width of the "wires" is fraction to previous solutions

542354234235 1y ago
Once again, regulation getting in the way of innovation in the name of "safety". Why can't we just sacrifice the vulnerable so I can think messages to my iPhone!

iamacyborg 1y ago

> I think anyone who chooses to undergo the first few trials of a new operation like this, and is informed about the risks, is very brave. Brave and/or incredibly desperate.