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The requirement which is driving the posting is a requirement that they search for candidates other than the one specific person they have in mind. If they post
by nickff 1y ago
The requirement which is driving the posting is a requirement that they search for candidates other than the one specific person they have in mind. If they post it with 'already filled' in the posting, they would not be complying with the requirement. The requirement is usually driven by a law or some policy created outside the hiring process for that position, so the hiring manager(s) are not permitted to do what you suggest.
- em-bee 1y agothe suggestion is to change the law.
- philipallstar 1y agoReducing regulations around H1B requirements (and fixing that by just reducing H1Bs) and internal hiring would be the way to solve it.
- TrousersHoisted 1y agoH1Bs aren't the only problem, though.
- edoceo 1y agoThey (H1B) seem to the "low hanging fruit" many (not just in this thread) are pointing to. I spend time in hiring circles and I hear this sentiment frequently. And the Ghost Post issue too. I think Ghost is bigger issue than H1B. Don't have a good solution.
- philipallstar 1y agoThey're enough, and they cause many other problems. If we limit ghost jobs to salary benchmarking then that's a massive reduction.
- a_cardboard_box 1y agoYou seem to misunderstand the proposal. The proposal is that after they have done everything that is already legally required (advertise an open position for some amount of time etc), then they must amend the posting to include that the position is filled by an internal/external/H-1B hire. There is still a period of time when the position is advertised as open.
- alistairSH 1y agoWhich is still "broken" since the position was never really open in the first place - it's still a ghost listing, as the position was always going to an internal hire or H1b or whatever.
- LorenPechtel 1y agoThe point was not to solve it, but to expose it.
- jacobgkau 1y agoYes, but requiring the post-fill disclosure will at least make data available to work the problem further.
- azemetre 1y agoI use to work for a company that got around this by posting the job ad physically outside our offices doors. We were 5 stories in a WeWork space. Probably illegal but I doubt the company cared.
- yardie 1y agoI was employed as a contractor for a state agency many years ago. When it was time to convert to permanent full-time they had to advertise my job on the job boards because of some law. I also had to apply to my job in the same fashion. Not a promotion or pay raise was profered, just a straightforward contractor to FTE process. And I almost didn't get it. So, I convert my resume into the job description that would be posted. Thinking it will get 100% hit rate. Lo and behold, someone else took that job description and basically converted it into their resume. And got a higher ATS score!