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For the record. Apple has pushed Google Maps off the iPhone in iOS 6. Not sure they'll allow it either as it would 'duplicate core OS functionality'

by nc 14y ago

da_n 14y ago
Guess I should have said more clearly, meant blocking in the browser. With Google Maps, I thought this was down to their license agreement expiring, and that Google reportedly have their own App Store version in the works. I suppose if the app is rejected by Apple on frivalous grounds this would be cause for concern.
dasil003 14y ago
And Google dragged their feet in updating it for years. But that's different from doing a specific edge-case breakage with a petulant message.
- bishnu 14y ago
  Your first point is incorrect. Apple developed (and has always developed) the Maps app for iOS. The app is no longer using the Google Maps API - that is the difference in iOS 6.
SoftwareMaven 14y ago
So were you part of the meetings that decided this? Because I could, for the record, say that Google pulled its Maps app off of the iPhone in iOS 6. I don't think either is an appropriate characterization of the situation. More likely, Apple had features they wanted that Google wouldn't license (eg turn by turn), so Apple decided to develop its own product. The license terms of the agreement for which Apple was paying Google included shipping the Google Maps app, so when Apple decided not to renew the agreement, they had to stop shipping a product called Google Maps.
- adgar 14y ago
  > Because I could, for the record, say that Google pulled its Maps app off of the iPhone in iOS 6. Someone with in-depth knowledge of the licensing agreements! You must know exactly what happened, based on your assertion of credentials, here. > More likely, Apple had features they wanted that Google wouldn't license (eg turn by turn) Wouldn't? Or couldn't? Do you know? Do you care? It seems your mind is made up despite not having the inside knowledge you assert.
  - SoftwareMaven 14y ago
    You're right, I don't know (don't care, either). I was trying to make a point that there is probably a story that involved more than 1/2 a sentence. My mind is not in the least way made up. I'm curious where that came from, honestly. That's a strong assertion that I actually tried to keep out of my post as I hypothesized what I saw as a plausible scenario given only whats been in the media. I have no clue, and I highly doubt anybody posting here does, either.
    - adgar 14y ago
      > That's a strong assertion that I actually tried to keep out of my post as I hypothesized what I saw as a plausible scenario given only whats been in the media. You said it was "more likely," implying you had some reason to believe it besides what people say on the Internet.
      - SoftwareMaven 14y ago
        That's a good point. My intention was that it was more likely that there was a much richer story than "X is trying to screw Y". Thanks for explaining so I can make my comments closer to what I'm trying to say.

For the record. Apple has pushed Google Maps off the iPhone in iOS 6. Not sure they'll allow it either as it would 'duplicate core OS functionality'

by nc 14y ago

For the record. Apple has pushed Google Maps off the iPhone in iOS 6. Not sure they'll allow it either as it would 'duplicate core OS functionality'

da_n 14y ago

Guess I should have said more clearly, meant blocking in the browser. With Google Maps, I thought this was down to their license agreement expiring, and that Google reportedly have their own App Store version in the works. I suppose if the app is rejected by Apple on frivalous grounds this would be cause for concern.

dasil003 14y ago

And Google dragged their feet in updating it for years. But that's different from doing a specific edge-case breakage with a petulant message.

bishnu 14y ago
Your first point is incorrect. Apple developed (and has always developed) the Maps app for iOS. The app is no longer using the Google Maps API - that is the difference in iOS 6.

SoftwareMaven 14y ago

So were you part of the meetings that decided this? Because I could, for the record, say that Google pulled its Maps app off of the iPhone in iOS 6. I don't think either is an appropriate characterization of the situation. More likely, Apple had features they wanted that Google wouldn't license (eg turn by turn), so Apple decided to develop its own product. The license terms of the agreement for which Apple was paying Google included shipping the Google Maps app, so when Apple decided not to renew the agreement, they had to stop shipping a product called Google Maps.

adgar 14y ago
> Because I could, for the record, say that Google pulled its Maps app off of the iPhone in iOS 6. Someone with in-depth knowledge of the licensing agreements! You must know exactly what happened, based on your assertion of credentials, here. > More likely, Apple had features they wanted that Google wouldn't license (eg turn by turn) Wouldn't? Or couldn't? Do you know? Do you care? It seems your mind is made up despite not having the inside knowledge you assert.
- SoftwareMaven 14y ago
  You're right, I don't know (don't care, either). I was trying to make a point that there is probably a story that involved more than 1/2 a sentence. My mind is not in the least way made up. I'm curious where that came from, honestly. That's a strong assertion that I actually tried to keep out of my post as I hypothesized what I saw as a plausible scenario given only whats been in the media. I have no clue, and I highly doubt anybody posting here does, either.
  - adgar 14y ago
    > That's a strong assertion that I actually tried to keep out of my post as I hypothesized what I saw as a plausible scenario given only whats been in the media. You said it was "more likely," implying you had some reason to believe it besides what people say on the Internet.
    - SoftwareMaven 14y ago
      That's a good point. My intention was that it was more likely that there was a much richer story than "X is trying to screw Y". Thanks for explaining so I can make my comments closer to what I'm trying to say.