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Do americans really get that much spam? I don't see the point of this. You can unsubscribe most superfluous newsletters anyway and you have a spam filter. A few

by _9ptr 1y ago

Do americans really get that much spam? I don't see the point of this. You can unsubscribe most superfluous newsletters anyway and you have a spam filter. A few intelligently chosen folders and inbox zero is a piece of cake.

torton 1y ago
Regular spam isn't really a problem. For work email, various salespeople reaching out to sell things, often things completely unrelated to my job title, are highly annoying. I report all of them to spam to Google and block their emails, but the approaches of modern salespeople are increasingly indistinguishable from those of mass spammers (burner domains, "prewarming", multiple scheduled human looking followups, etc.) Things I do intentionally subscribe to (such as airline offers) tend to switch their send-from address or title or something else every so often and are no longer caught by filters. At some volume, this becomes an occasional annoying toil to deal with. Note, I don't use Gmail, unlike ~90-95% of people in my circles.
- account42 1y ago
  Is this coming from companies in the US? More effective might be to send their legal department a friendly reminder of the CAN-SPAM act.
  - torton 1y ago
    Not worth your time. In most cases, these would be nominally compliant with CAN-SPAM, and if you ask you will be removed from their list. It's simply easier (and helps others) to block and report as spam.
- apparent 1y ago
  I can't understand why follow-ups to emails I have marked as spam in my Mac's Mail application end up in my inbox. It seems that if I go to the gmail interface and mark as spam there, this doesn't happen. But why doesn't gmail get the hint when Mac Mail moves a message from inbox to spam?
hoistbypetard 1y ago
Maybe? I've got an email address that's 25 years old, and there's so much spam that I rarely use it; if I don't see an email within about 1 hour of receiving it, it's off the first screen. I still go there periodically and search for messages I'm expecting. But it's not usable as a normal email address anymore because there's so much spam. I now have another address that I am much more restrained about sharing.
tlogan 1y ago
If you are disciplined and unsubscribe from mailing lists, you will stop getting most of the spam in your inbox. Sure, your spam folder might still be full - but with actual spam. Honestly, I think it all comes down to discipline. You should immediately unsubscribe if you do not want someone’s newsletter. But my problem is different: I get a lot of emails that I do want to receive, but I do not need to read them right away - or sometimes never. For example, mortgage monthly statements, which I really only need at tax time.
slipperydippery 1y ago
Dozens of junk emails per day. I don't think it has anything to do with being American. I used to try to manage it with filters and unsubscribing and such, but at some point I realized I go years at a time without receiving emails from a human. My actual usage pattern was that I only looked at it when I expected an email from a machine, in which case it'd either be in the top 5 or so messages, or it'd be the first hit or two for a naive search. Now I just let it fill up with shit, because who cares? I basically never open it without a specific message in mind, anyway. Trying to manage it was a total waste of my time.

by _9ptr 1y ago

torton 1y ago

Regular spam isn't really a problem. For work email, various salespeople reaching out to sell things, often things completely unrelated to my job title, are highly annoying. I report all of them to spam to Google and block their emails, but the approaches of modern salespeople are increasingly indistinguishable from those of mass spammers (burner domains, "prewarming", multiple scheduled human looking followups, etc.) Things I do intentionally subscribe to (such as airline offers) tend to switch their send-from address or title or something else every so often and are no longer caught by filters. At some volume, this becomes an occasional annoying toil to deal with. Note, I don't use Gmail, unlike ~90-95% of people in my circles.

account42 1y ago
Is this coming from companies in the US? More effective might be to send their legal department a friendly reminder of the CAN-SPAM act.
- torton 1y ago
  Not worth your time. In most cases, these would be nominally compliant with CAN-SPAM, and if you ask you will be removed from their list. It's simply easier (and helps others) to block and report as spam.
apparent 1y ago
I can't understand why follow-ups to emails I have marked as spam in my Mac's Mail application end up in my inbox. It seems that if I go to the gmail interface and mark as spam there, this doesn't happen. But why doesn't gmail get the hint when Mac Mail moves a message from inbox to spam?

hoistbypetard 1y ago

Maybe? I've got an email address that's 25 years old, and there's so much spam that I rarely use it; if I don't see an email within about 1 hour of receiving it, it's off the first screen. I still go there periodically and search for messages I'm expecting. But it's not usable as a normal email address anymore because there's so much spam. I now have another address that I am much more restrained about sharing.

tlogan 1y ago

If you are disciplined and unsubscribe from mailing lists, you will stop getting most of the spam in your inbox. Sure, your spam folder might still be full - but with actual spam. Honestly, I think it all comes down to discipline. You should immediately unsubscribe if you do not want someone’s newsletter. But my problem is different: I get a lot of emails that I do want to receive, but I do not need to read them right away - or sometimes never. For example, mortgage monthly statements, which I really only need at tax time.

slipperydippery 1y ago

Dozens of junk emails per day. I don't think it has anything to do with being American. I used to try to manage it with filters and unsubscribing and such, but at some point I realized I go years at a time without receiving emails from a human. My actual usage pattern was that I only looked at it when I expected an email from a machine, in which case it'd either be in the top 5 or so messages, or it'd be the first hit or two for a naive search. Now I just let it fill up with shit, because who cares? I basically never open it without a specific message in mind, anyway. Trying to manage it was a total waste of my time.