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It's a sad state of affairs when a guy born in 1953 and a 70+ years old is our reference for freedom. What happened to GenX, Millenials and GenZ ? Why aren't

It's a sad state of affairs when a guy born in 1953 and a 70+ years old is our reference for freedom. What happened to GenX, Millenials and GenZ ? Why aren't there any more vocal activists doing something? The internet fuked us up. We're full of armchair experts "fighting" the cause laying in our coach.

BiteCode_dev 1y ago
Millenials here. We did. A lot of a lot. And nobody cared. Even today on HN most use chrome instead of firefox and mac instead of linux and. If you can't even convince the biggest nerds that supporting alternatives is important, what chances do you have?
- hollerith 1y ago
  This nerd cares about security, and Chrome is significantly more secure than Firefox and Mac is significantly more secure than any Linux distro.
  - fsflover 1y ago
    If you actually cared about security, you would use Qubes OS. With the latter, security of Firefox is more than sufficient for everything.
    - hollerith 1y ago
      MacOS is more secure than Qubes IMO.
      - fsflover 1y ago
        You should just compare the number of CVEs. Qubes security is stronger even than the one of Xen used in servers: https://www.qubes-os.org/security/xsa/#statistics https://www.qubes-os.org/security/xsa/#statistics. Even Snowden uses Qubes. No single app has access to any data thanks to hardware-assisted virtualization. Last time a VM escape in the modern Qubes implementation was discovered in 2006 by the Qubes founder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software).
  - zerreh50 1y ago
    99% of the time security is about securing the product from the user. Just like Google's action we're commenting under
  - dmbche 1y ago
    I must be a shit nerd, I've never in my life thought about browser safety. How the hell is chrome significantly more secure than firefox?
  - tgma 1y ago
    > Mac is significantly more secure than any Linux distro. Citation needed.
js8 1y ago
Plenty of Gen Z caring about freedom, but unfortunately lot of them being deported from the U.S. for defending Palestinians. I mean - Western world is a bit tougher place for protesting than it used to be, due to capital accumulation. Free SW is admirable but a pretty first world problem, unfortunately, low on the list of priorities.
- xbar 1y ago
  Lack of free SW is unfortunately a universal problem for basic human rights now.
- umbra07 1y ago
  "lot of them being deported from the U.S. for defending Palestinians." Can you cite me a source for this? Specifically to show that there are a "lot" of them being deported, and that the cause is definitely "for defending Palestinians" and nothing else?
  - dmbche 1y ago
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/columbia-donald-trump-israel-louisiana-gaza-b2723446.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/columbia-d... A simple google search away.
  - js8 1y ago
    Another good source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/27/us/students-trump-ice-detention.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/27/us/students-trump-ice-det...
gck1 1y ago
Millennial here. I took up educating masses in my country about all this. I quickly realized that people just do not care.

BiteCode_dev 1y ago

Millenials here. We did. A lot of a lot. And nobody cared. Even today on HN most use chrome instead of firefox and mac instead of linux and. If you can't even convince the biggest nerds that supporting alternatives is important, what chances do you have?

hollerith 1y ago
This nerd cares about security, and Chrome is significantly more secure than Firefox and Mac is significantly more secure than any Linux distro.
- fsflover 1y ago
  If you actually cared about security, you would use Qubes OS. With the latter, security of Firefox is more than sufficient for everything.
  - hollerith 1y ago
    MacOS is more secure than Qubes IMO.
    - fsflover 1y ago
      You should just compare the number of CVEs. Qubes security is stronger even than the one of Xen used in servers: https://www.qubes-os.org/security/xsa/#statistics https://www.qubes-os.org/security/xsa/#statistics. Even Snowden uses Qubes. No single app has access to any data thanks to hardware-assisted virtualization. Last time a VM escape in the modern Qubes implementation was discovered in 2006 by the Qubes founder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software).
- zerreh50 1y ago
  99% of the time security is about securing the product from the user. Just like Google's action we're commenting under
- dmbche 1y ago
  I must be a shit nerd, I've never in my life thought about browser safety. How the hell is chrome significantly more secure than firefox?
- tgma 1y ago
  > Mac is significantly more secure than any Linux distro. Citation needed.

js8 1y ago

Plenty of Gen Z caring about freedom, but unfortunately lot of them being deported from the U.S. for defending Palestinians. I mean - Western world is a bit tougher place for protesting than it used to be, due to capital accumulation. Free SW is admirable but a pretty first world problem, unfortunately, low on the list of priorities.

xbar 1y ago
Lack of free SW is unfortunately a universal problem for basic human rights now.
umbra07 1y ago
"lot of them being deported from the U.S. for defending Palestinians." Can you cite me a source for this? Specifically to show that there are a "lot" of them being deported, and that the cause is definitely "for defending Palestinians" and nothing else?
- dmbche 1y ago
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/columbia-donald-trump-israel-louisiana-gaza-b2723446.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/columbia-d... A simple google search away.
- js8 1y ago
  Another good source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/27/us/students-trump-ice-detention.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/27/us/students-trump-ice-det...

gck1 1y ago

Millennial here. I took up educating masses in my country about all this. I quickly realized that people just do not care.