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I made a living from buying/selling domain names. Well that wasn't too hard to guess, huh? -Sad.

ohashi 14y ago
How I made my living has no relevance to the stupidity of your statement that you are somehow entitled to something you never owned or had any right to. There are a lot of legitimate arguments but yours isn't one.
- white_devil 14y ago
  A legitimate argument? Do we really need to go through why domain squatting is bad? It's quite obvious, but alright then. - You have a business idea. - You come up with a great domain name for your company. One that's relevant to what you're doing, and clever too! - You go online hoping to buy that domain. - You find out it's been taken by someone.. - .. but not for the purpose of actually *doing* something with it. He's just holding it from you, hoping he can make you pay dearly for it. Bottom line: the domain name that would be perfect for your new business should cost you something like ten dollars. You'd buy it, and happily continue getting shit done. But now that the squatter has it, it costs you thousands of dollars, just because Fuck You. That's Bad, mm'kay?
  - ohashi 14y ago
    There is this nice empty plot of land without a house on it. I should be able to pay next to nothing for it because nobody is using it. Forget everyone else who might have been interested in the past. Forget the current owner who bought it legitimately. I deserve it because I want it and don't want to pay a fair market price for it.
    - white_devil 14y ago
      Let's not forget that the actual market price for a domain is roughly 10 dollars. Whatever a scumbag squatter can extract from a buyer in need is another matter. The market price for a plot of land is something based on the location and area. Will a land-owner accept the current market price for it, or will he demand.. say, 500 times the market price (or preferably 5000 times or 50000 times), just because Fuck You? Is land so cheap that anyone can start just grabbing hundreds of plots all over the world, on the off chance that someone might someday need one of them, planning to then extract 5000 times the market price from the buyer if he happens to need it bad enough?
      - ohashi 14y ago
        So you DO understand location/area and how they are correlated to value. Thus, you must recognize some names ARE better than others and are worth more. Therefore, the market price ISN'T $10, you are simply lying through your teeth to get what you want. The market price of UNCLAIMED land may be $10, and there are definitely unclaimed lots out there worth more. It's a whole business to go out and look for them. The market value of a CLAIMED piece is what someone is willing to pay for it and whether it meets the owners selling price. That is how markets work, there are at least two participants a buyer and a seller and the price is agreed upon by both parties. Your wording is still silly, 'needs' as if you suddenly can't live without a domain name someone else registered before you because you 'had a great idea for it.' You and anyone else are welcome to buy as many domains as you like that nobody has registered. You can use them for whatever purpose you damn well please as long as you keep paying. If someone else wants them from you, they need to pay enough to convince you to sell it to them. It's capitalism, if you can't handle it maybe you shouldn't be here.
        white_devil 14y ago
        Thus, you must recognize some names ARE better than others and are worth more. Therefore, the market price ISN'T $10 You're twisting the meaning of "market price" to suit your view, while accusing me of doing the same. There's a marketplace out there where anyone can go pick up a domain name for roughly 10 dollars. That is a domain's market price, but someone may consider a specific domain name worth more based on his personal circumstances, such as being about to start a company that the domain would suit well, and that's exactly what you and other scumbags are counting on. ICANN and the registrars don't price domains according to how desirable they think they are, and that's why they're all the same price. But you do. You buy ones you think other people would want. They're worth more than ten dollars only when someone else actually wants them. The domain you're "holding hostage" would still be worth only ten dollars to almost anyone else besides the guy who wants it. It's not the same as a plot of land, because there's no general consensus on the market price. There are lots of people who have thought of various good names for a product they're making, just to find out that they're all squatted. I'm one of them. You're a squatter. We're bound to not get along.

How I made my living has no relevance to the stupidity of your statement that you are somehow entitled to something you never owned or had any right to. There are a lot of legitimate arguments but yours isn't one.

white_devil 14y ago
A legitimate argument? Do we really need to go through why domain squatting is bad? It's quite obvious, but alright then. - You have a business idea. - You come up with a great domain name for your company. One that's relevant to what you're doing, and clever too! - You go online hoping to buy that domain. - You find out it's been taken by someone.. - .. but not for the purpose of actually *doing* something with it. He's just holding it from you, hoping he can make you pay dearly for it. Bottom line: the domain name that would be perfect for your new business should cost you something like ten dollars. You'd buy it, and happily continue getting shit done. But now that the squatter has it, it costs you thousands of dollars, just because Fuck You. That's Bad, mm'kay?
- ohashi 14y ago
  There is this nice empty plot of land without a house on it. I should be able to pay next to nothing for it because nobody is using it. Forget everyone else who might have been interested in the past. Forget the current owner who bought it legitimately. I deserve it because I want it and don't want to pay a fair market price for it.
  - white_devil 14y ago
    Let's not forget that the actual market price for a domain is roughly 10 dollars. Whatever a scumbag squatter can extract from a buyer in need is another matter. The market price for a plot of land is something based on the location and area. Will a land-owner accept the current market price for it, or will he demand.. say, 500 times the market price (or preferably 5000 times or 50000 times), just because Fuck You? Is land so cheap that anyone can start just grabbing hundreds of plots all over the world, on the off chance that someone might someday need one of them, planning to then extract 5000 times the market price from the buyer if he happens to need it bad enough?
    - ohashi 14y ago
      So you DO understand location/area and how they are correlated to value. Thus, you must recognize some names ARE better than others and are worth more. Therefore, the market price ISN'T $10, you are simply lying through your teeth to get what you want. The market price of UNCLAIMED land may be $10, and there are definitely unclaimed lots out there worth more. It's a whole business to go out and look for them. The market value of a CLAIMED piece is what someone is willing to pay for it and whether it meets the owners selling price. That is how markets work, there are at least two participants a buyer and a seller and the price is agreed upon by both parties. Your wording is still silly, 'needs' as if you suddenly can't live without a domain name someone else registered before you because you 'had a great idea for it.' You and anyone else are welcome to buy as many domains as you like that nobody has registered. You can use them for whatever purpose you damn well please as long as you keep paying. If someone else wants them from you, they need to pay enough to convince you to sell it to them. It's capitalism, if you can't handle it maybe you shouldn't be here.
      - white_devil 14y ago
        Thus, you must recognize some names ARE better than others and are worth more. Therefore, the market price ISN'T $10 You're twisting the meaning of "market price" to suit your view, while accusing me of doing the same. There's a marketplace out there where anyone can go pick up a domain name for roughly 10 dollars. That is a domain's market price, but someone may consider a specific domain name worth more based on his personal circumstances, such as being about to start a company that the domain would suit well, and that's exactly what you and other scumbags are counting on. ICANN and the registrars don't price domains according to how desirable they think they are, and that's why they're all the same price. But you do. You buy ones you think other people would want. They're worth more than ten dollars only when someone else actually wants them. The domain you're "holding hostage" would still be worth only ten dollars to almost anyone else besides the guy who wants it. It's not the same as a plot of land, because there's no general consensus on the market price. There are lots of people who have thought of various good names for a product they're making, just to find out that they're all squatted. I'm one of them. You're a squatter. We're bound to not get along.