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>Simply put: can the EU do without US tech? No. Wrong. The answer is yes, they very much can. Do they want to? No.
by jjani 1y ago
>Simply put: can the EU do without US tech? No.
Wrong. The answer is yes, they very much can. Do they want to? No.
- mike_hearn 1y agoNo, EU economy would collapse if all US tech was sanctioned tomorrow. Companies and governments have nowhere to migrate their Windows/Office/Outlook/Azure setups to.
- general1726 1y agoRussia is running on Windows too and did not collapsed. It turns out that companies wants to make money and are willing to jump through hoops, sanctions or not. Also you can just use cracked OS (illegal, but if Microsoft is out, it will become abandonware) and create alternative API for cloud services. How hard do you think it would be to create i.e. S3 compatible API? Wait that already exists - https://github.com/jchristn/S3Server https://github.com/jchristn/S3Server And you could continue with whatever Azure, AWS etc offers. In the end, it is just some variation of a REST server.
- mike_hearn 1y agoRussia has a homegrown Google competitor in the form of Yandex. It runs its own search engine, mail, cloud services, office suites etc. There isn't an EU equivalent AFAIK. And they had many years to prepare because Russia has been sanctioned in various forms for a long time going back to 2016. Windows is not that important. It's more about Outlook, Office, all the enterprise apps running on US clouds, etc.
- general1726 1y agoWhich EU cloud providers can easily create knock offs and then let EU services migrate without changing anything on companies side, except just endpoints. Furthermore EU equivalents of Yandex do exist - https://www.seznam.cz/ https://www.seznam.cz/ (Do you see the Yahoo in it?) or French Google: https://www.qwant.com/?l=en https://www.qwant.com/?l=en or equivalent of Google Maps https://mapy.com/en/ https://mapy.com/en/ just have a look here: https://european-alternatives.eu/ https://european-alternatives.eu/ They are small, sure, but the moment competition is gone, there is no reason for them not to scale
- jjani 1y agoIt doesn't take years to set up a local equivalent of Yandex, or indeed what Russia has set up. It's very feasible to do the same as Russia.
- mike_hearn 1y agoYandex is older than Google itself is.
- jjani 1y agoThe building you in being 30 years old doesn't mean it takes 30 years old to build a new building.
- mike_hearn 1y agoBuildings aren't comparable to tech companies, are they? Tech companies continuously build out their technology stack. They don't build a product then fire everyone who isn't a keep-the-lights-on-sysadmin. Modern Google or Yandex is the result of 30 years of continuous building, every day.
- jjani 1y agoAs the other commenter pointed out, Russia's still live and kicking.