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I'd rather go to the China model of authoritarianism with working infrastructure (trains, what have you) and a belief in science than to the US model of anti-sc

• myrmidon 1y ago
  The big assumption here is that authoritarianism in Europe would get you better infrastructure. My personal belief is that for good infrastructure you want capable local industry (to build it) AND a population that is not too wealthy (because this gives additional infrastructure more relative value, keeps the workforce for building it more affordable and thus citizens less likely to oppose the whole thing). I don't think that having european dictators would really help either of those points, so my infrastructure expectations from neofascism are quite low.
• terminalshort 1y ago
  You think the "one percent" are anti-science authoritarians? Have you met them?
  • saubeidl 1y ago
    The Koch brothers and there anti climate science propaganda network immediately come to mind, as does the Mercer family and their sponsoring of Breitbart.
    • terminalshort 1y ago
      If I had said "you can't even find 2 extreme outliers among the 3 million 1%ers in the US that are opposed to one particular type of science because of their financial interests" then this would be a reasonable argument. But I didn't say that. And even then, Koch industries is a terrible example. They employ thousands of scientists and engineers.