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In Switzerland, Teletext somehow proved popular enough you can now access the content (with the same nostalgic look and feel, modulo some advertising) online an

by bschne 1y ago

In Switzerland, Teletext somehow proved popular enough you can now access the content (with the same nostalgic look and feel, modulo some advertising) online and on a mobile app. https://www.teletext.ch/ https://www.teletext.ch/ https://apps.apple.com/ch/app/teletext/id308630240?l=en-GB https://apps.apple.com/ch/app/teletext/id308630240?l=en-GB

msephton 1y ago
Love this. Many years ago I provided Teletext as a Mac OS X Dashboard Widget using content provided free of charge by a friendly Dutch guy who extracted it from the broadcast signal using some special hardware. Good times.
- msephton 1y ago
  Woah, my old web page is still up: https://www.gingerbeardman.com/ceefaxviewer/ https://www.gingerbeardman.com/ceefaxviewer/
the_mitsuhiko 1y ago
Same in Austria: https://teletext.orf.at/channel/orf1/page/100/1 https://teletext.orf.at/channel/orf1/page/100/1
theletterf 1y ago
Same in Italy: https://www.televideo.rai.it https://www.televideo.rai.it
- reddalo 1y ago
  Your link doesn't work for me. Try this: https://www.televideo.rai.it/televideo/pub/index.jsp https://www.televideo.rai.it/televideo/pub/index.jsp By the way, an interesting book called "La TV da sfogliare. 1984-2024. 40 anni di Televideo" by Guido Barlozzetti came out this year. It's super interesting (if you speak Italian and) if you're curious about the history of the Italian teletext.
johannes1234321 1y ago
> somehow proved popular enough In my view Teletext has a great property: A single page is short. Thus news articles must be compact and straight to the point. Unlike the text here, which I can fill with fluff, unrelated side remarks and repetition, a teletext author has to find the essence in the news and focus. That makes scanning Teletext news quick while giving a good view on what is "important" (by the standards of that broadcaster)
- wkat4242 1y ago
  And there's no images. I really hate those news pages that are 90% photo
- anthk 1y ago
  Yep. No bias, no matter which political side you choose, you just got raw news in any channel. That was great for objectivity and fairness.
  - mrguyorama 1y ago
    The constant belief by people that somehow, if you remove information, you reduce bias is insane. I assure you, Pravda could fit it's biases, lies, propaganda, and omissions in 160 characters. Bullshit has always been easy to shrink. It is nuance, context, framing, etc that you are eschewing in your mistaken belief of "no bias".
  - johannes1234321 1y ago
    I don't know how you read that into my post. It is quite different: Having such a limited channel as Teletext one has to be even more selective on the news being reported and then which aspects of it to report. Over here in Germany I got some TV stations discussing on celebrity news, some station focusing on economy/business news, others on political things, some in sports. But yeah, USA has this "two sides" issue with a touch of zero sum (it's always either this or that side and either helping one or the other side)
cess11 1y ago
I'll pile on with the swedish equivalent: https://www.svt.se/text-tv/100 https://www.svt.se/text-tv/100
wrboyce 1y ago
UK, too! https://nmsceefax.co.uk https://nmsceefax.co.uk
- troad 1y ago
  Huh. I unexpectedly learned about Lil Nas X's arrest from this. I feel like Homer Simpson, learning about Deng Xiaoping's death from a Powersauce bar.
- blitzar 1y ago
  I forgot about the page number counting up to get to your selected page.
4ggr0 1y ago
The actual infra-backend of the swiss Teletext is quite cute, just a single, Windows 2000 (if I remember correctly, maybe Server-edition) PC, running in a Datacenter-rack, on the floor of course, with about one dude who knows how it all works. Not sure how other countries do it, probably with similar, archaic setups. At least that was the state about 10 years ago, maybe they upgraded the infra since then.
troad 1y ago
The Czechs too: https://teletext.ceskatelevize.cz/?p=100-1 https://teletext.ceskatelevize.cz/?p=100-1 It seems like it would be a pretty neat little hobby project to develop a common teletext viewer / aggregator for all of these links people are putting up!
jeroenhd 1y ago
The Dutch national broastcaster upgraded their Teletext infrastructure (which was still running on old tech from the 80s) back in 2023: https://over.nos.nl/nieuws/teletekst-kan-weer-jaren-vooruit-met-nieuw-systeem/ https://over.nos.nl/nieuws/teletekst-kan-weer-jaren-vooruit-... The website (https://nos.nl/teletekst/101 https://nos.nl/teletekst/101) and app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eoffice.android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eoffice.an...) are very popular (no ads on either), but so is the website which covers a fraction of a modern browser's screen. There's something about the short-form just-the-facts writing that makes information and news much easier to read than the puff pieces you find on many websites these days.
anthk 1y ago
Spain too: https://rtve.es/television/teletexto https://rtve.es/television/teletexto Private channels have teletext pages too.

by bschne 1y ago

msephton 1y ago

Love this. Many years ago I provided Teletext as a Mac OS X Dashboard Widget using content provided free of charge by a friendly Dutch guy who extracted it from the broadcast signal using some special hardware. Good times.

msephton 1y ago
Woah, my old web page is still up: https://www.gingerbeardman.com/ceefaxviewer/ https://www.gingerbeardman.com/ceefaxviewer/

the_mitsuhiko 1y ago

Same in Austria: https://teletext.orf.at/channel/orf1/page/100/1 https://teletext.orf.at/channel/orf1/page/100/1

theletterf 1y ago

Same in Italy: https://www.televideo.rai.it https://www.televideo.rai.it

reddalo 1y ago
Your link doesn't work for me. Try this: https://www.televideo.rai.it/televideo/pub/index.jsp https://www.televideo.rai.it/televideo/pub/index.jsp By the way, an interesting book called "La TV da sfogliare. 1984-2024. 40 anni di Televideo" by Guido Barlozzetti came out this year. It's super interesting (if you speak Italian and) if you're curious about the history of the Italian teletext.

johannes1234321 1y ago

> somehow proved popular enough In my view Teletext has a great property: A single page is short. Thus news articles must be compact and straight to the point. Unlike the text here, which I can fill with fluff, unrelated side remarks and repetition, a teletext author has to find the essence in the news and focus. That makes scanning Teletext news quick while giving a good view on what is "important" (by the standards of that broadcaster)

wkat4242 1y ago
And there's no images. I really hate those news pages that are 90% photo
anthk 1y ago
Yep. No bias, no matter which political side you choose, you just got raw news in any channel. That was great for objectivity and fairness.
- mrguyorama 1y ago
  The constant belief by people that somehow, if you remove information, you reduce bias is insane. I assure you, Pravda could fit it's biases, lies, propaganda, and omissions in 160 characters. Bullshit has always been easy to shrink. It is nuance, context, framing, etc that you are eschewing in your mistaken belief of "no bias".
- johannes1234321 1y ago
  I don't know how you read that into my post. It is quite different: Having such a limited channel as Teletext one has to be even more selective on the news being reported and then which aspects of it to report. Over here in Germany I got some TV stations discussing on celebrity news, some station focusing on economy/business news, others on political things, some in sports. But yeah, USA has this "two sides" issue with a touch of zero sum (it's always either this or that side and either helping one or the other side)

cess11 1y ago

I'll pile on with the swedish equivalent: https://www.svt.se/text-tv/100 https://www.svt.se/text-tv/100

wrboyce 1y ago

UK, too! https://nmsceefax.co.uk https://nmsceefax.co.uk

troad 1y ago
Huh. I unexpectedly learned about Lil Nas X's arrest from this. I feel like Homer Simpson, learning about Deng Xiaoping's death from a Powersauce bar.
blitzar 1y ago
I forgot about the page number counting up to get to your selected page.

4ggr0 1y ago

The actual infra-backend of the swiss Teletext is quite cute, just a single, Windows 2000 (if I remember correctly, maybe Server-edition) PC, running in a Datacenter-rack, on the floor of course, with about one dude who knows how it all works. Not sure how other countries do it, probably with similar, archaic setups. At least that was the state about 10 years ago, maybe they upgraded the infra since then.

troad 1y ago

The Czechs too: https://teletext.ceskatelevize.cz/?p=100-1 https://teletext.ceskatelevize.cz/?p=100-1 It seems like it would be a pretty neat little hobby project to develop a common teletext viewer / aggregator for all of these links people are putting up!

jeroenhd 1y ago

The Dutch national broastcaster upgraded their Teletext infrastructure (which was still running on old tech from the 80s) back in 2023: https://over.nos.nl/nieuws/teletekst-kan-weer-jaren-vooruit-met-nieuw-systeem/ https://over.nos.nl/nieuws/teletekst-kan-weer-jaren-vooruit-... The website (https://nos.nl/teletekst/101 https://nos.nl/teletekst/101) and app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eoffice.android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eoffice.an...) are very popular (no ads on either), but so is the website which covers a fraction of a modern browser's screen. There's something about the short-form just-the-facts writing that makes information and news much easier to read than the puff pieces you find on many websites these days.

anthk 1y ago

Spain too: https://rtve.es/television/teletexto https://rtve.es/television/teletexto Private channels have teletext pages too.