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yes and no. i have macbook pro m4 and a zbook g1a (ai max 395+ ie strix halo) In day to day usage the strix halo is significantly faster, and especially when l

by kangs 1y ago

yes and no. i have macbook pro m4 and a zbook g1a (ai max 395+ ie strix halo) In day to day usage the strix halo is significantly faster, and especially when large context LLM and games are used - but also typical stuff like Lightroom (gpu heavy) etc. on the flip side the m4 battery life is significantly longer (but also the mpb is approx 1/4 heavier) for what its worth i also have a t14 with a snapdragon X elite and while its battery is closer to a mbp, its just kinda slow and clunky. so my best machine right now is the x86 actually!

nicolaslem 1y ago
I also have a Strix Halo zbook G1A and I am quite disappointed in the idle power consumption as it hovers around 8W. Adding to that, it is very picky about which power brick it accepts (not every 140W PD compliant works) and the one that comes with the laptop is bulky and heavy. I am used to plugging my laptop into whatever USB-C PD adapter is around, down to 20W phone chargers. Having the zbook refuse to charge on them is a big downgrade for me.
- omnimus 1y ago
  I am also on search of good portable brick to replace 140w. I found 100w Anker Prime was working well. And surprisingly there is almost identical 3 port Baseus 100w GaN but half the price. For some reason it is hard to come by (they have few other 100w bricks that are not so portable) i think it might be discontinued.
- yaro330 1y ago
  > Adding to that, it is very picky about which power brick it accepts (not every 140W PD compliant works) and the one that comes with the laptop is bulky and heavy. I am used to plugging my laptop into whatever USB-C PD adapter is around, down to 20W phone chargers. Having the zbook refuse to charge on them is a big downgrade for It's Dell, they are probably not actually using PD3.1 to achieve the 140w mark, instead they are prolly using PD3.0 extension and shove 20v7a into the laptop. I can't find any info, but you can check on the charger. If it lists 28V then it's 3.1, else 3.0. If it's 3.1 you can get a Baseus PowerMega 140W PD3.1, seems like a reeeeally solid charger from my limited use.
  - nicolaslem 1y ago
    It is HP, and the output of the provided adapter does 28V 5A, so in spec. With some of the other 28V 5A adapters I have, it charges until triggering a compute heavy task and then stops. I have seen reports online of people seeing this behavior with the official adapter. My theory is that the laptop itself does not accept any ripple at all.
    - yaro330 1y ago
      Ah my bad. Are you sure your cable can do 140w? That was the source of most of my pains trying to push 100w to my work laptop. Baseus and Anker have some good PD3.1 chipped cables that worked for me. What kind of charger are you using?
aurareturn 1y ago
yes and no. i have macbook pro m4 and a zbook g1a (ai max 395+ ie strix halo) You're comparing the base M4 to a full fat Strix Halo that costs nearly $4,000. You can buy the base M4 chip in a Mac Mini for $500 on sale. A better comparison would be the M4 Max at that price. Here's a comparison I did between Strix Halo, M4 Pro, M4 Max: https://imgur.com/a/yvpEpKF https://imgur.com/a/yvpEpKF As you can see, Strix Halo is behind M4 Pro in performance and severely behind in efficiency. In ST, M4 Pro is 3.6x more efficient and 50% faster. It's not even close to the M4 Max. (but also the mpb is approx 1/4 heavier) Because it uses a metal enclosure.
- KingOfCoders 1y ago
  Someone has these two machines, and claims the x86 feels faster in his work. You don't own any of the machines but have "made" a comparison by copying data from the internet I assume. This is like explaining to someone who eats a sweet apple that the internet says the apple isn't sweet. MacBook Pro, 2TB, 32gb, 3200 EUR HP G1a, 2TB, 128gb, 3700 EUR If we don't compare laptops but mini-PCs, Evo X2, 2TB, 128gb, 2000 EUR, Mac Mini, 2TB, 32gb, 2200 EUR
  - aurareturn 1y ago
    You don't own any of the machines but have "made" a comparison by copying data from the internet I assume. This is like explaining to someone who eats a sweet apple that the internet says the apple isn't sweet. Yea, I never said he is wrong in his own experience. I was pointing out that the comparison is made between a base M4 and maxed out Ryzen. If we want to compare products in the same class, then use M4 Max. MacBook Pro, 2TB, 32gb, 3200 EUR A little disingenuous to max out on the SSD to make the Apple product look worse. SSD prices are bad value on Apple products. No one is denying that.
    - KingOfCoders 1y ago
      I didn't "max out" the SSD, I chose an SSD to match the machine of the user. You: "You're comparing the base M4 to a full fat Strix Halo that costs nearly $4,000." Then You: "A little disingenuous to max out on the SSD to make the Apple product look worse."

by kangs 1y ago

nicolaslem 1y ago

I also have a Strix Halo zbook G1A and I am quite disappointed in the idle power consumption as it hovers around 8W. Adding to that, it is very picky about which power brick it accepts (not every 140W PD compliant works) and the one that comes with the laptop is bulky and heavy. I am used to plugging my laptop into whatever USB-C PD adapter is around, down to 20W phone chargers. Having the zbook refuse to charge on them is a big downgrade for me.

omnimus 1y ago
I am also on search of good portable brick to replace 140w. I found 100w Anker Prime was working well. And surprisingly there is almost identical 3 port Baseus 100w GaN but half the price. For some reason it is hard to come by (they have few other 100w bricks that are not so portable) i think it might be discontinued.
yaro330 1y ago
> Adding to that, it is very picky about which power brick it accepts (not every 140W PD compliant works) and the one that comes with the laptop is bulky and heavy. I am used to plugging my laptop into whatever USB-C PD adapter is around, down to 20W phone chargers. Having the zbook refuse to charge on them is a big downgrade for It's Dell, they are probably not actually using PD3.1 to achieve the 140w mark, instead they are prolly using PD3.0 extension and shove 20v7a into the laptop. I can't find any info, but you can check on the charger. If it lists 28V then it's 3.1, else 3.0. If it's 3.1 you can get a Baseus PowerMega 140W PD3.1, seems like a reeeeally solid charger from my limited use.
- nicolaslem 1y ago
  It is HP, and the output of the provided adapter does 28V 5A, so in spec. With some of the other 28V 5A adapters I have, it charges until triggering a compute heavy task and then stops. I have seen reports online of people seeing this behavior with the official adapter. My theory is that the laptop itself does not accept any ripple at all.
  - yaro330 1y ago
    Ah my bad. Are you sure your cable can do 140w? That was the source of most of my pains trying to push 100w to my work laptop. Baseus and Anker have some good PD3.1 chipped cables that worked for me. What kind of charger are you using?

aurareturn 1y ago

yes and no. i have macbook pro m4 and a zbook g1a (ai max 395+ ie strix halo) You're comparing the base M4 to a full fat Strix Halo that costs nearly $4,000. You can buy the base M4 chip in a Mac Mini for $500 on sale. A better comparison would be the M4 Max at that price. Here's a comparison I did between Strix Halo, M4 Pro, M4 Max: https://imgur.com/a/yvpEpKF https://imgur.com/a/yvpEpKF As you can see, Strix Halo is behind M4 Pro in performance and severely behind in efficiency. In ST, M4 Pro is 3.6x more efficient and 50% faster. It's not even close to the M4 Max. (but also the mpb is approx 1/4 heavier) Because it uses a metal enclosure.

KingOfCoders 1y ago
Someone has these two machines, and claims the x86 feels faster in his work. You don't own any of the machines but have "made" a comparison by copying data from the internet I assume. This is like explaining to someone who eats a sweet apple that the internet says the apple isn't sweet. MacBook Pro, 2TB, 32gb, 3200 EUR HP G1a, 2TB, 128gb, 3700 EUR If we don't compare laptops but mini-PCs, Evo X2, 2TB, 128gb, 2000 EUR, Mac Mini, 2TB, 32gb, 2200 EUR
- aurareturn 1y ago
  You don't own any of the machines but have "made" a comparison by copying data from the internet I assume. This is like explaining to someone who eats a sweet apple that the internet says the apple isn't sweet. Yea, I never said he is wrong in his own experience. I was pointing out that the comparison is made between a base M4 and maxed out Ryzen. If we want to compare products in the same class, then use M4 Max. MacBook Pro, 2TB, 32gb, 3200 EUR A little disingenuous to max out on the SSD to make the Apple product look worse. SSD prices are bad value on Apple products. No one is denying that.
  - KingOfCoders 1y ago
    I didn't "max out" the SSD, I chose an SSD to match the machine of the user. You: "You're comparing the base M4 to a full fat Strix Halo that costs nearly $4,000." Then You: "A little disingenuous to max out on the SSD to make the Apple product look worse."