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So this is why we were told to wear masks that were ineffective at blocking viruses? In short, we effectively went mask-less for the duration and spreading was

So this is why we were told to wear masks that were ineffective at blocking viruses? In short, we effectively went mask-less for the duration and spreading was relatively minimal; certainly not mitigated by disposable masks. This was also interesting: Back to School in a Rapidly Changing World https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_12369_085cdf46-2a33-4f24-ab76-f41910963b18&uf=https%3A%2F%2Fpublicfeeds.net%2Ff%2F12369%2Fthepulse.xml https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_12369_085cdf46-2a33-4f24-...

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> why we were told to wear masks that were ineffective at blocking viruses? Masks and HEPA filters can block droplets that contain viruses. Neither filters out actual virus particles.
- vintermann 1y ago
  Respiratory virus particles outside an aerosol droplet don't last long, but yes, they should be filtered too (not "blocked", it will always be probabilistic)
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > they should be filtered too (not "blocked", it will always be probabilistic) The article’s point is we haven’t precisely studied what those probabilities are.
    - vintermann 1y ago
      No it isn't actually, those kind of low level technical questions have been somewhat studied. It's the end to end interventions which have been poorly studied.
- chiefalchemist 1y ago
  Fact: There was a brief moment during the pandemic when Faucci tipped his hand on the ineffectiveness of disposable masks. He did a week-ish of suggesting we wear TWO masks. The only reason to do that was - as a seasoned virologist - he KNEW one mask was not good enough. Why else would he do that? https://www.today.com/health/dr-fauci-shows-how-wear-2-masks-correctly-today-t208765 https://www.today.com/health/dr-fauci-shows-how-wear-2-masks... More recently, on NPR’s The Pulse was this: Back to School in a Rapidly Changing World https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_12369_085cdf46-2a33-4f24-ab76-f41910963b18&uf=https%3A%2F%2Fpublicfeeds.net%2Ff%2F12369%2Fthepulse.xml https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_12369_085cdf46-2a33-4f24-... Let’s just say “the science” we were fed during COVID was lacking in a number of ways. Please note: The above our not my opinion. These are real things that happened. Please don’t down vote simple because you can’t come to terms with your cognitive dissonance.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> why we were told to wear masks that were ineffective at blocking viruses? Masks and HEPA filters can block droplets that contain viruses. Neither filters out actual virus particles.

vintermann 1y ago
Respiratory virus particles outside an aerosol droplet don't last long, but yes, they should be filtered too (not "blocked", it will always be probabilistic)
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > they should be filtered too (not "blocked", it will always be probabilistic) The article’s point is we haven’t precisely studied what those probabilities are.
  - vintermann 1y ago
    No it isn't actually, those kind of low level technical questions have been somewhat studied. It's the end to end interventions which have been poorly studied.
chiefalchemist 1y ago
Fact: There was a brief moment during the pandemic when Faucci tipped his hand on the ineffectiveness of disposable masks. He did a week-ish of suggesting we wear TWO masks. The only reason to do that was - as a seasoned virologist - he KNEW one mask was not good enough. Why else would he do that? https://www.today.com/health/dr-fauci-shows-how-wear-2-masks-correctly-today-t208765 https://www.today.com/health/dr-fauci-shows-how-wear-2-masks... More recently, on NPR’s The Pulse was this: Back to School in a Rapidly Changing World https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_12369_085cdf46-2a33-4f24-ab76-f41910963b18&uf=https%3A%2F%2Fpublicfeeds.net%2Ff%2F12369%2Fthepulse.xml https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_12369_085cdf46-2a33-4f24-... Let’s just say “the science” we were fed during COVID was lacking in a number of ways. Please note: The above our not my opinion. These are real things that happened. Please don’t down vote simple because you can’t come to terms with your cognitive dissonance.