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> The paper also noted that although reading with children is rare, it has not changed much over time. This part really got to me, reading to one's children is

> The paper also noted that although reading with children is rare, it has not changed much over time. This part really got to me, reading to one's children is rare? That's so sad. My toddler loves reading with me.

giantg2 1y ago
How many people have yoyung children? It could just be a distribution/sampling problem.
- HeyLaughingBoy 1y ago
  I read to my youngest until he was 14. He grew up with me reading to him at bedtime and just enjoyed it. We started with Detective Dinosaur and ended with either One Hundred Years of Solitude or Ender's Game. Don't remember which.
  - slipperydippery 1y ago
    With the really young kids you could lead with One Hundred Years of Solitude. There are lots of times you're not really showing them pictures in the book—or they're too young even for that, really, can't focus their eyes well—and they just need to hear the sounds and flow of language, not to understand every word (or any words). I read mine To the Lighthouse and shit like that, it was great, I think each kid got three or four "classics" while very young. I could pare down my own to-read list while being "a good parent", LOL, felt like a cheat code.
    - c22 1y ago
      When my oldest was less than two I used to read her research papers and random technical PDFs that I was interested in reading anyway. She enjoyed them as much as any story.
- armoredkitten 1y ago
  From the full paper: "Although reading with children did not change over time, rates of engagement were surprisingly low, with only 2% of participants reading with children on the average day. Overall, 21% of our sample had a child under 9 years (the age by which most can read independently) with them during the diary day. So a large majority of those with young children did not read with them." So of people with young children, it looks like the rate is about 9.5%.
makeitdouble 1y ago
I'd assume reading _with_ children and reading _to_ children are differentiated ?
- amanaplanacanal 1y ago
  They define it as "reading to or with household or non-household children, listening to child read, helping child read"
0xcafefood 1y ago
It jumped out at me too. Are people not reading to their kids?!
- radicaldreamer 1y ago
  They're playing videos for them on an iPad or phone
- lisbbb 1y ago
  [flagged]
bokchoi 1y ago
I still read with my 5th graders every night. It's a nice time to connect with them and wind down before sleep.
5555624 1y ago
I don't recall my parents reading with (or to) me, ever. maybe when i was two and I don't remember it? I never saw either one read for pleasure. I did know my dad would read fiction when waiting in airports when traveling, because he'd giv me the paperbacks when he'd get home. (I remember a Bantam Doc Savage reprint, Ludlum, Forsyth, and more). That said, I've always read for pleasure and do it daily.
croon 1y ago
I admittedly read less for myself nowadays, as I can only pick up an hour here or there, but I've read at least 10-20 pages per day for/with the kids for the last 8 years. The bonus with the 8 yo is that I've read books that didn't exist when I was young and thus never got around to, so I've read Percy Jackson, His Dark Materials, Harry Potter (not as good as the expectation), on top of reading the Hobbit for the 3rd time (her request) and a few repeated Narnia books (some of the latter written ones are quite a slog frankly). I'm hoping to keep this up for as long as they are receptive. But solo reading I think I've only gotten through Exhalation, Silmarillion and Rendezvous with Rama in the last year.
- ethbr1 1y ago
  Based on the above list, you all might also enjoy His Dark Materials https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials, Redwall https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwall https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwall, and The Dragonriders of Perth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonriders_of_Pern https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonriders_of_Pern When reading progression is ready for more depth, The Dark Is Rising https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Is_Rising_Sequence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Is_Rising_Sequence or Earthsea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthsea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthsea are both excellent too. All are series with approachable first books that can be enjoyed on their own (if they don't hit).
  - croon 1y ago
    His Dark Materials was already in my post, but at least it's a testament to the precision of your list, so I'll look into the other ones, thank you!
    - ethbr1 1y ago
      That's what I get for posting pre-coffee. Point!
foxyv 1y ago
I have been shocked by the monstrous neglect that is heaped on many children. A significant number of parents keep kids like worthless livestock. They do the bare minimum to not lose them to CPS and then kick them out at the first opportunity. Spending as much time as it takes to read to your children every night is WAY more than these parents are willing to do. Children are lucky if they can eat more than one meal a day, sleep in a clean bed and have clean clothes to wear. Usually there are abused and neglected animals that will foul the household and bite the children. Money is spent on nicotine products, alcohol, fast food, and gambling. Any money spent on children is done so hesitantly. This is why social services like daycare and public schools are so important. It is often the only chance many children will have to get the care and attention they need to survive until adulthood without huge mental and physical health issues.
mathiaspoint 1y ago
My dad read to me and my brother every night. When I became a teenager I read his (fairly complete) sci-fi collection for fun and we spent a ton of time discussing it together. It's surprising how similar our tastes are, I don't know if that's genetic or epigenetic but I suspect it doesn't matter and many people could have a similar experience. I've been maintaining my own collection in the hope that I could give my own children (if I have any, which is looking increasingly less likely) the same experience.

giantg2 1y ago

How many people have yoyung children? It could just be a distribution/sampling problem.

HeyLaughingBoy 1y ago
I read to my youngest until he was 14. He grew up with me reading to him at bedtime and just enjoyed it. We started with Detective Dinosaur and ended with either One Hundred Years of Solitude or Ender's Game. Don't remember which.
- slipperydippery 1y ago
  With the really young kids you could lead with One Hundred Years of Solitude. There are lots of times you're not really showing them pictures in the book—or they're too young even for that, really, can't focus their eyes well—and they just need to hear the sounds and flow of language, not to understand every word (or any words). I read mine To the Lighthouse and shit like that, it was great, I think each kid got three or four "classics" while very young. I could pare down my own to-read list while being "a good parent", LOL, felt like a cheat code.
  - c22 1y ago
    When my oldest was less than two I used to read her research papers and random technical PDFs that I was interested in reading anyway. She enjoyed them as much as any story.
armoredkitten 1y ago
From the full paper: "Although reading with children did not change over time, rates of engagement were surprisingly low, with only 2% of participants reading with children on the average day. Overall, 21% of our sample had a child under 9 years (the age by which most can read independently) with them during the diary day. So a large majority of those with young children did not read with them." So of people with young children, it looks like the rate is about 9.5%.

makeitdouble 1y ago

I'd assume reading _with_ children and reading _to_ children are differentiated ?

amanaplanacanal 1y ago
They define it as "reading to or with household or non-household children, listening to child read, helping child read"

0xcafefood 1y ago

It jumped out at me too. Are people not reading to their kids?!

radicaldreamer 1y ago
They're playing videos for them on an iPad or phone
lisbbb 1y ago
[flagged]

bokchoi 1y ago

I still read with my 5th graders every night. It's a nice time to connect with them and wind down before sleep.

5555624 1y ago

I don't recall my parents reading with (or to) me, ever. maybe when i was two and I don't remember it? I never saw either one read for pleasure. I did know my dad would read fiction when waiting in airports when traveling, because he'd giv me the paperbacks when he'd get home. (I remember a Bantam Doc Savage reprint, Ludlum, Forsyth, and more). That said, I've always read for pleasure and do it daily.

croon 1y ago

I admittedly read less for myself nowadays, as I can only pick up an hour here or there, but I've read at least 10-20 pages per day for/with the kids for the last 8 years. The bonus with the 8 yo is that I've read books that didn't exist when I was young and thus never got around to, so I've read Percy Jackson, His Dark Materials, Harry Potter (not as good as the expectation), on top of reading the Hobbit for the 3rd time (her request) and a few repeated Narnia books (some of the latter written ones are quite a slog frankly). I'm hoping to keep this up for as long as they are receptive. But solo reading I think I've only gotten through Exhalation, Silmarillion and Rendezvous with Rama in the last year.

ethbr1 1y ago
Based on the above list, you all might also enjoy His Dark Materials https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials, Redwall https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwall https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwall, and The Dragonriders of Perth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonriders_of_Pern https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonriders_of_Pern When reading progression is ready for more depth, The Dark Is Rising https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Is_Rising_Sequence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Is_Rising_Sequence or Earthsea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthsea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthsea are both excellent too. All are series with approachable first books that can be enjoyed on their own (if they don't hit).
- croon 1y ago
  His Dark Materials was already in my post, but at least it's a testament to the precision of your list, so I'll look into the other ones, thank you!
  - ethbr1 1y ago
    That's what I get for posting pre-coffee. Point!

foxyv 1y ago

I have been shocked by the monstrous neglect that is heaped on many children. A significant number of parents keep kids like worthless livestock. They do the bare minimum to not lose them to CPS and then kick them out at the first opportunity. Spending as much time as it takes to read to your children every night is WAY more than these parents are willing to do. Children are lucky if they can eat more than one meal a day, sleep in a clean bed and have clean clothes to wear. Usually there are abused and neglected animals that will foul the household and bite the children. Money is spent on nicotine products, alcohol, fast food, and gambling. Any money spent on children is done so hesitantly. This is why social services like daycare and public schools are so important. It is often the only chance many children will have to get the care and attention they need to survive until adulthood without huge mental and physical health issues.

mathiaspoint 1y ago

My dad read to me and my brother every night. When I became a teenager I read his (fairly complete) sci-fi collection for fun and we spent a ton of time discussing it together. It's surprising how similar our tastes are, I don't know if that's genetic or epigenetic but I suspect it doesn't matter and many people could have a similar experience. I've been maintaining my own collection in the hope that I could give my own children (if I have any, which is looking increasingly less likely) the same experience.