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GrapheneOS is a beautiful stop-gap, but there are real bona-fide Linux smartphones out there. To be clear, there are not many, the hardware often isn't great, t

GrapheneOS is a beautiful stop-gap, but there are real bona-fide Linux smartphones out there. To be clear, there are not many, the hardware often isn't great, the software often isn't great. PinePhone and Librem come to mind.

eraviloi 1y ago
https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2020/introducing-precursor/ https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2020/introducing-precurso... This is the most secure phone that has been made recently.
- deleted 1y ago
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- duskwuff 1y ago
  Precursor is neat, but it isn't a phone.
  - ebcode 1y ago
    Pretty sure Bunnie named it “precursor” because the plan is to make the actual phone (with a cellular modem) next. If I had the cash to support him and buy a Precursor I would.
- anonym29 1y ago
  Neat concept. For anyone else failing to resolve DNS for that domain: https://archive.is/q7w0x https://archive.is/q7w0x
- int_19h 1y ago
  Per their spec sheet it doesn't have cellular connectivity, so it's not actually a phone. And if what you want is a PDA that runs Linux, there are many options, e.g. https://www.clockworkpi.com/home-uconsole https://www.clockworkpi.com/home-uconsole.
RedComet 1y ago
Cell carriers will just start requiring the attestation as well. And eventually, even an internet connection will - wifi routers will have to attest to ISP equipment, etc. The final phase is "AI" monitoring everything you do on your devices. Eventually it won't just be passive, either, but likely active: able to change books you read and audio you listen to on-the-fly without your consent. It will be argued that this ok because the program is "objective".
- anonym29 1y ago
  At this point, I would stop using commercial cell carriers and ISP-provided equipment altogether, even if that means setting up mesh networks with an underground community. User control or bust.
wishfish 1y ago
I've been keeping an eye on FuriLabs (Furiphone). They maintain FuriOS - Debian with an Android kernel. Has a container for running Android apps. Price is reasonable though I don't know how it'll be affected by tariffs in the US. It's tempting. https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/
opan 1y ago
In addition to the PinePhone and Librem 5, you can also put postmarketOS on some faster Android phones like the OnePlus 6T.
ahdanggit 1y ago
I really wanted to like Librem and almost bought a phone until I saw this video by Louis Rossmann: https://youtu.be/wKegmu0V75s?si=NzevsJgHD188bRkT https://youtu.be/wKegmu0V75s?si=NzevsJgHD188bRkT
charcircuit 1y ago
>real bona-fide Linux Android is decades ahead of that in security, functionality, utility, devex, and design. It's a fools errand to try and modernize that, over building on top of AOSP.

eraviloi 1y ago

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2020/introducing-precursor/ https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2020/introducing-precurso... This is the most secure phone that has been made recently.

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duskwuff 1y ago
Precursor is neat, but it isn't a phone.
- ebcode 1y ago
  Pretty sure Bunnie named it “precursor” because the plan is to make the actual phone (with a cellular modem) next. If I had the cash to support him and buy a Precursor I would.
anonym29 1y ago
Neat concept. For anyone else failing to resolve DNS for that domain: https://archive.is/q7w0x https://archive.is/q7w0x
int_19h 1y ago
Per their spec sheet it doesn't have cellular connectivity, so it's not actually a phone. And if what you want is a PDA that runs Linux, there are many options, e.g. https://www.clockworkpi.com/home-uconsole https://www.clockworkpi.com/home-uconsole.

RedComet 1y ago

Cell carriers will just start requiring the attestation as well. And eventually, even an internet connection will - wifi routers will have to attest to ISP equipment, etc. The final phase is "AI" monitoring everything you do on your devices. Eventually it won't just be passive, either, but likely active: able to change books you read and audio you listen to on-the-fly without your consent. It will be argued that this ok because the program is "objective".

anonym29 1y ago
At this point, I would stop using commercial cell carriers and ISP-provided equipment altogether, even if that means setting up mesh networks with an underground community. User control or bust.

wishfish 1y ago

I've been keeping an eye on FuriLabs (Furiphone). They maintain FuriOS - Debian with an Android kernel. Has a container for running Android apps. Price is reasonable though I don't know how it'll be affected by tariffs in the US. It's tempting. https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/

opan 1y ago

In addition to the PinePhone and Librem 5, you can also put postmarketOS on some faster Android phones like the OnePlus 6T.

ahdanggit 1y ago

I really wanted to like Librem and almost bought a phone until I saw this video by Louis Rossmann: https://youtu.be/wKegmu0V75s?si=NzevsJgHD188bRkT https://youtu.be/wKegmu0V75s?si=NzevsJgHD188bRkT

charcircuit 1y ago

>real bona-fide Linux Android is decades ahead of that in security, functionality, utility, devex, and design. It's a fools errand to try and modernize that, over building on top of AOSP.