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This was the deliberate targeting of a hospital. They then deliberately bombed the same spot as rescuers went to help. It's not excusable and certainly can't b

This was the deliberate targeting of a hospital. They then deliberately bombed the same spot as rescuers went to help. It's not excusable and certainly can't be explained away. Israel has deliberately and repeatedly targeted hospitals, journalists and civilians. At some point hopefully enough of those carrying out these deliberate acts are tried to ensure that never again is this tolerated.

tguvot 1y ago
yes. they deliberately targeted external stairs near roof because there was somebody who was suspected to be a spotter for a few days. this is how war works. hospitals loose protected status in case they used for military activity. https://archive.is/aTwq9 https://archive.is/aTwq9
- NomDePlum 1y ago
  Over 200,000 civilians deliberately killed and maimed by Israel. Over 2 million people deliberately starved by Israel. None of it admitted, trite comments trying to excuse war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide don't carry weight. Hopefully in the future these people will be brought to justice.
  - tguvot 1y ago
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    - bbqfog 1y ago
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      - tguvot 1y ago
        yes. hamas,pij,pflp getting killed it's how they are brought to justice. you got it right.
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  - asdefghyk 1y ago
    RE "....Over 200,000 civilians deliberately killed and maimed by Israel. Over 2 million people deliberately starved by Israel....." Seem to be cherry picking figures. Please attribute some blame to Hamas also too. Thank You.
    - NomDePlum 1y ago
      Nothing is being cherry picked. Those figures are almost certainly an undercount. The point is about Israel's war crimes and them hopefully being brought to justice at some point in the future, twisting the narrative to divert from this being 100% a deliberate, calculated, long term choice is not appropriate.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
  such claims by one of the parties to the war (especially a party with such a long history of lying about it) are insufficient justification for attacking a hospital, doctors, journalists, etc otherwise hamas could claim with at least as much credulity that every innocent person they killed just happened to be beside a soldier and they just missed, oops, so it's all good right? or they could claim with at least as much credulity that there were no combatants launching attacks from the hospital, and that would cancel out israel's claims that there were, and thus israel's claimed justification yes: absent independent investigation and judgement, there is no credible justification for this attack on civilians of course, this is to say nothing of morality: killing innocent civilians and their press for exercising their right to video their own land? gross. killing the rescuers and doctors and reporters who responded to your first killing (and were within their rights to do so)? sick. genociding hundreds of thousands of innocent palestinian civilians to avenge a thousand israeli ones because you think israeli people are superior and more valuable than palestinian people? literally atrocious.
  - tguvot 1y ago
    its literally satisfying justification for attacking hospitals and hamas operatives who pose as journalists. also i been told by mainstream media multiple times that there are no more hospitals in gaza as israel destroyed all of them. so i am mildly surprised here. hamas takes pride in attacking civilians. which is evidenced by multiple attacks over past 30 years against purely civilian targets. for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_discotheque_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_discotheque_bombi... . they later proudly take responsibility for actions like this. sometimes hamas/pij/pflp will all claim responsibility . i wonder what is your take on 20 years of unguided rockets shot from gaza (around 20000 in total) after israel left it in 2005
    - ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
      it's literally not sufficient justification, in large part due to israel's long history of lying and coordinated efforts to prevent independent investigators from investigating the truth otherwise hamas could claim with at least as much credulity that every innocent person they killed just happened to be beside a soldier and they just missed, oops, so it's all good right? or they could claim with at least as much credulity that there were no combatants launching attacks from the hospital, and that would cancel out israel's claims that there were, and thus israel's claimed justification israel takes pride in attacking civilians. which is evidenced by multiple attacks over past 30 years against purely civilian targets. for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence . they later proudly take responsibility for actions like this i wonder what is your take on 20 years of illegal israeli occupation of palestine and terrorist attacks on palestinians?

tguvot 1y ago

yes. they deliberately targeted external stairs near roof because there was somebody who was suspected to be a spotter for a few days. this is how war works. hospitals loose protected status in case they used for military activity. https://archive.is/aTwq9 https://archive.is/aTwq9

NomDePlum 1y ago
Over 200,000 civilians deliberately killed and maimed by Israel. Over 2 million people deliberately starved by Israel. None of it admitted, trite comments trying to excuse war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide don't carry weight. Hopefully in the future these people will be brought to justice.
- tguvot 1y ago
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  - bbqfog 1y ago
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    - tguvot 1y ago
      yes. hamas,pij,pflp getting killed it's how they are brought to justice. you got it right.
      - bbqfog 1y ago
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- asdefghyk 1y ago
  RE "....Over 200,000 civilians deliberately killed and maimed by Israel. Over 2 million people deliberately starved by Israel....." Seem to be cherry picking figures. Please attribute some blame to Hamas also too. Thank You.
  - NomDePlum 1y ago
    Nothing is being cherry picked. Those figures are almost certainly an undercount. The point is about Israel's war crimes and them hopefully being brought to justice at some point in the future, twisting the narrative to divert from this being 100% a deliberate, calculated, long term choice is not appropriate.
ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
such claims by one of the parties to the war (especially a party with such a long history of lying about it) are insufficient justification for attacking a hospital, doctors, journalists, etc otherwise hamas could claim with at least as much credulity that every innocent person they killed just happened to be beside a soldier and they just missed, oops, so it's all good right? or they could claim with at least as much credulity that there were no combatants launching attacks from the hospital, and that would cancel out israel's claims that there were, and thus israel's claimed justification yes: absent independent investigation and judgement, there is no credible justification for this attack on civilians of course, this is to say nothing of morality: killing innocent civilians and their press for exercising their right to video their own land? gross. killing the rescuers and doctors and reporters who responded to your first killing (and were within their rights to do so)? sick. genociding hundreds of thousands of innocent palestinian civilians to avenge a thousand israeli ones because you think israeli people are superior and more valuable than palestinian people? literally atrocious.
- tguvot 1y ago
  its literally satisfying justification for attacking hospitals and hamas operatives who pose as journalists. also i been told by mainstream media multiple times that there are no more hospitals in gaza as israel destroyed all of them. so i am mildly surprised here. hamas takes pride in attacking civilians. which is evidenced by multiple attacks over past 30 years against purely civilian targets. for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_discotheque_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_discotheque_bombi... . they later proudly take responsibility for actions like this. sometimes hamas/pij/pflp will all claim responsibility . i wonder what is your take on 20 years of unguided rockets shot from gaza (around 20000 in total) after israel left it in 2005
  - ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
    it's literally not sufficient justification, in large part due to israel's long history of lying and coordinated efforts to prevent independent investigators from investigating the truth otherwise hamas could claim with at least as much credulity that every innocent person they killed just happened to be beside a soldier and they just missed, oops, so it's all good right? or they could claim with at least as much credulity that there were no combatants launching attacks from the hospital, and that would cancel out israel's claims that there were, and thus israel's claimed justification israel takes pride in attacking civilians. which is evidenced by multiple attacks over past 30 years against purely civilian targets. for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence . they later proudly take responsibility for actions like this i wonder what is your take on 20 years of illegal israeli occupation of palestine and terrorist attacks on palestinians?