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When we need exactly the opposite in today's environment - empathy, more in-person connection, helping the vulnerable. Again, these values are timeless.

b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago
Yes and to add to this, we're seeing a rise of nonchalantness and apathy, or at least feigned apathy that's really devastating. Modern dating advice is basically how to show you care less than the other person. Don't ever show vulnerability!! The person who cares the least wins, as if it's a zero sum game. Everyone just loses instead. I was watching some vintage F1 clips and it showed some guys from the 70's celebrating a win and it occurred to me that I rarely see people (men especially) celebrating in such a carefree and passionate way. They weren't afraid to show emotion or show that they really cared about the result. They were chalant. I hope we can bring back vulnerability, emotions, and being okay with looking "cringe" sometimes.
- arp242 1y ago
  It's not so clear to me that the 70s were really the hey-day of male emotional vulnerability. In general, these kind of expressions like when and how to cheer seem more fashion than anything else. And stupid dating stuff also seems old. That said, I also feel a general kind of nihilism and apathy. But to be honest: I don't really know if it's worse than in the past? Or I'm just getting old and tired of all the stupid bullshit?
  - b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago
    Yeah I mean I wasn't around in the 70's so I can't really say for sure. I just noticed that 1) people in the media looked like normal people, unlike the perfectly curated and airbrushed models of today, 2) people seemed more authentic in the way they spoke and held themselves and 3) people seemed less nonchalant in general. Of course the media from that era I consume plays a part as well. Just my thoughts.
- akimbostrawman 1y ago
  >They weren't afraid to show emotion or show that they really cared about the result. They were chalant. I think in general people fear to be genuine about things they care about because the internet put a spotlight with the potential for ridicule on a scale never seen before on them. That is why young people seem so into self depreciation, can't be put down if you are there from the get go "it might be cringe but so am i" and "I like it ironically".
blast 1y ago
These things aren't contradictory. They may even need each other.
dlahoda 1y ago
why we need in today's env?

b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago

Yes and to add to this, we're seeing a rise of nonchalantness and apathy, or at least feigned apathy that's really devastating. Modern dating advice is basically how to show you care less than the other person. Don't ever show vulnerability!! The person who cares the least wins, as if it's a zero sum game. Everyone just loses instead. I was watching some vintage F1 clips and it showed some guys from the 70's celebrating a win and it occurred to me that I rarely see people (men especially) celebrating in such a carefree and passionate way. They weren't afraid to show emotion or show that they really cared about the result. They were chalant. I hope we can bring back vulnerability, emotions, and being okay with looking "cringe" sometimes.

arp242 1y ago
It's not so clear to me that the 70s were really the hey-day of male emotional vulnerability. In general, these kind of expressions like when and how to cheer seem more fashion than anything else. And stupid dating stuff also seems old. That said, I also feel a general kind of nihilism and apathy. But to be honest: I don't really know if it's worse than in the past? Or I'm just getting old and tired of all the stupid bullshit?
- b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago
  Yeah I mean I wasn't around in the 70's so I can't really say for sure. I just noticed that 1) people in the media looked like normal people, unlike the perfectly curated and airbrushed models of today, 2) people seemed more authentic in the way they spoke and held themselves and 3) people seemed less nonchalant in general. Of course the media from that era I consume plays a part as well. Just my thoughts.
akimbostrawman 1y ago
>They weren't afraid to show emotion or show that they really cared about the result. They were chalant. I think in general people fear to be genuine about things they care about because the internet put a spotlight with the potential for ridicule on a scale never seen before on them. That is why young people seem so into self depreciation, can't be put down if you are there from the get go "it might be cringe but so am i" and "I like it ironically".

blast 1y ago

These things aren't contradictory. They may even need each other.

dlahoda 1y ago

why we need in today's env?