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Learn how to change a lightbulb? Is that a handyman level skill?

giardini 1y ago
Sadly yes, b/c even the simplest things can go wrong quickly. E.g. people sometimes change light bulbs w/o turning off the power. Have you ever experienced a dead (or good, for that matter) bulb coming apart as you twist it out of the socket? Would you trust a naive person to properly handle that situation? With power off(easy case)? With power on(difficult)?
- kjkjadksj 1y ago
  If they can set up a light with home assistant they can screw in a lightbulb. Come on.
  - giardini 1y ago
    That may be so, but what you say doesn't answer my question: can they unscrew a lightbulb that is literally falling apart as they unscrew it? ANSWER: If the power is off, they likely will remove the glass bulb (one piece), examine the situation and then unscrew the metal bulb base (second piece) and finally, remove any stray material in the (unpowered) socket. If the power is on, the correct answer is "No, they likely cannot unscrew the bulb. Instead they will likely short the circuit, blow a breaker/fuse and put themselves in a situation where they must call in someone more knowledgeable, (or worse)."
    - kjkjadksj 1y ago
      I’m sorry the light bulb presents difficulty for you
- justsomehnguy 1y ago
  You are conflating naive and a barely functional human being. If someone doesn't know what the electricity zaps and couldn't think two steps ahead then they definitely should be anywhere near a power circuits, operating a car or be allowed to vote. EDIT: of course it should had been 'shouldn't be anywhere' but it's even better, so I leave it as is.
  - micromacrofoot 1y ago
    you've just excluded at least half of america from voting, however smart you think most people are... the reality is significantly worse
    - giardini 1y ago
      Can I now take it as confirmation from the two of you (justsomehnguy and micromacrofoot) that at least half of Americans who vote should not be allowed to vote? If so, this may be the first time an important political question has been resolved without a light bulb turning on (figurative or otherwise).
      - justsomehnguy 1y ago
        Does the name R. Heinlein rings any bells? Not what I would support it made that way...
greysonp 1y ago
I have no idea what the specific situation is, but in my old rental, the ceiling lights weren't traditional bulbs -- they were custom dome fixtures with non-replaceable lighting elements. When mine went out, I had to wait for my landlord to buy a replacement.

Sadly yes, b/c even the simplest things can go wrong quickly. E.g. people sometimes change light bulbs w/o turning off the power. Have you ever experienced a dead (or good, for that matter) bulb coming apart as you twist it out of the socket? Would you trust a naive person to properly handle that situation? With power off(easy case)? With power on(difficult)?

kjkjadksj 1y ago
If they can set up a light with home assistant they can screw in a lightbulb. Come on.
- giardini 1y ago
  That may be so, but what you say doesn't answer my question: can they unscrew a lightbulb that is literally falling apart as they unscrew it? ANSWER: If the power is off, they likely will remove the glass bulb (one piece), examine the situation and then unscrew the metal bulb base (second piece) and finally, remove any stray material in the (unpowered) socket. If the power is on, the correct answer is "No, they likely cannot unscrew the bulb. Instead they will likely short the circuit, blow a breaker/fuse and put themselves in a situation where they must call in someone more knowledgeable, (or worse)."
  - kjkjadksj 1y ago
    I’m sorry the light bulb presents difficulty for you
justsomehnguy 1y ago
You are conflating naive and a barely functional human being. If someone doesn't know what the electricity zaps and couldn't think two steps ahead then they definitely should be anywhere near a power circuits, operating a car or be allowed to vote. EDIT: of course it should had been 'shouldn't be anywhere' but it's even better, so I leave it as is.
- micromacrofoot 1y ago
  you've just excluded at least half of america from voting, however smart you think most people are... the reality is significantly worse
  - giardini 1y ago
    Can I now take it as confirmation from the two of you (justsomehnguy and micromacrofoot) that at least half of Americans who vote should not be allowed to vote? If so, this may be the first time an important political question has been resolved without a light bulb turning on (figurative or otherwise).
    - justsomehnguy 1y ago
      Does the name R. Heinlein rings any bells? Not what I would support it made that way...

greysonp 1y ago

I have no idea what the specific situation is, but in my old rental, the ceiling lights weren't traditional bulbs -- they were custom dome fixtures with non-replaceable lighting elements. When mine went out, I had to wait for my landlord to buy a replacement.