Well, all countries are complex collections of people and ideas, so like people, there are no pure good guys. But we have all been subjected to particularly US

Well, all countries are complex collections of people and ideas, so like people, there are no pure good guys. But we have all been subjected to particularly US propaganda portraying the West as the global good guys, and specproc challenged that worldview in the comment to which you replied. Ironically, you criticised him for being naive as he was challenging the concept of the West as the good guys, something you now call naive yourself. So it seems you aren't internally consistent.