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Cornell's world-first 'microwave brain' computes differently

gwbas1c 1y ago
> One example of an analog computer is a mechanical clock. It calculates that passage of time by means of springs, gears and an escapement that models the real world. Many other examples include slide rules (yes, I'm that old), speedometers, spring or liquid thermometers, and more. What we call "computer" today is really a "general-purpose computer." Although, personally I think it's a stretch of semantics to call a mechanical clock a "computer."
- miladyincontrol 1y ago
  Similar sentiments to some of my older camera lenses that call their depth of field scale a computer. Doubly so when they were later cost-reduced out and replaced with basic, static markings rather than a mechanism that expanded/contracted depending on your aperture
eggy 1y ago
When I started to really get into robotics, mechanics, and automation back in the late 80s and early 90s, the fork in the road of Rodney Brooke's subsumption architecture, but still digital, approach versus Mark Tilden's BEAM analog approach really had me trying both. CPGs (Central Pattern Generators) were often implemented using simple RC (resistor-capacitor) circuits within his "nervous net" (NvNet) architectures. The RC circuits generated rhythmic patterns that drove the robots' motor behaviors, allowing gaits to emerge naturally from the interaction of these analog components with the environment and the robot's mechanical structure. This approach enabled adaptive, robust locomotion without requiring complex digital control systems. His 6-legged robots could lose a leg, and the system would take feedback from the stuck or missing leg, and learn to walk with 5 or 4 legs. Amazing stuff.
Eddy_Viscosity2 1y ago
Long live analog!
OutOfHere 1y ago
Link is not loading, probably due to DNS ad-blocking being blocked. Can someone save it to archive? Here is an alt link: https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-first-microwave-brain-chip https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-f...
gcoguiec 1y ago
Alternative link from Cornell's website: https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-first-microwave-brain-chip https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-f...
bjornsing 1y ago
Seems to be the press release for this article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41928-025-01422-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41928-025-01422-1 Anyone know where I can read it?
- griffzhowl 1y ago
  Got the link from google scholar: [PDF] https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-5494383/latest.pdf https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-5494383/latest.pdf
- hnuser123456 1y ago
  You can read it from that link if you're accessing from an institution subscribed to Nature or have Nature+.
  - bjornsing 1y ago
    I asked Claude to dream it up instead. It was good.
nis0s 1y ago
It seems it will still use some digital process to encode and decode whatever is transmitted or received, I could be misreading it.
beardyw 1y ago
I have always thought that digital killed analogue prematurely and unnecessarily. I hope this works out.
- iaw 1y ago
  The potential of fully miniature vacuum tubes was never realized
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
ninalanyon 1y ago
Surely mechanical clocks are digital in the sense that time is quantized into ticks by the escapement. The various gears do not rotate continuously.
- Legend2440 1y ago
  “Discrete” does not mean “digital”. Digital logic is the system of gates and switches that we use as an abstraction layer over analog circuits. AND, OR, XOR, etc. You certainly could build logic gates out of gears, and this would be a digital mechanical computer. But it’s not often done.
  - ninalanyon 1y ago
    In common speech discrete and digital are pretty much synonyms. Also if we're going to be picky what you described is Boolean logic not digital.
  - sherburt3 1y ago
    I thought digital meant you use your fingers. I use my fingers a lot with my computer
shakna 1y ago
Don't you just love how marketing has to slap a "AI" paragraph in there? The bigger deal is 200mW for 30Ghz. Which incidentally... Is probably never going to be nice for modern AI.

> One example of an analog computer is a mechanical clock. It calculates that passage of time by means of springs, gears and an escapement that models the real world. Many other examples include slide rules (yes, I'm that old), speedometers, spring or liquid thermometers, and more. What we call "computer" today is really a "general-purpose computer." Although, personally I think it's a stretch of semantics to call a mechanical clock a "computer."

miladyincontrol 1y ago
Similar sentiments to some of my older camera lenses that call their depth of field scale a computer. Doubly so when they were later cost-reduced out and replaced with basic, static markings rather than a mechanism that expanded/contracted depending on your aperture

eggy 1y ago

When I started to really get into robotics, mechanics, and automation back in the late 80s and early 90s, the fork in the road of Rodney Brooke's subsumption architecture, but still digital, approach versus Mark Tilden's BEAM analog approach really had me trying both. CPGs (Central Pattern Generators) were often implemented using simple RC (resistor-capacitor) circuits within his "nervous net" (NvNet) architectures. The RC circuits generated rhythmic patterns that drove the robots' motor behaviors, allowing gaits to emerge naturally from the interaction of these analog components with the environment and the robot's mechanical structure. This approach enabled adaptive, robust locomotion without requiring complex digital control systems. His 6-legged robots could lose a leg, and the system would take feedback from the stuck or missing leg, and learn to walk with 5 or 4 legs. Amazing stuff.

Eddy_Viscosity2 1y ago

Long live analog!

OutOfHere 1y ago

Link is not loading, probably due to DNS ad-blocking being blocked. Can someone save it to archive? Here is an alt link: https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-first-microwave-brain-chip https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-f...

gcoguiec 1y ago

Alternative link from Cornell's website: https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-first-microwave-brain-chip https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/08/researchers-build-f...

bjornsing 1y ago

Seems to be the press release for this article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41928-025-01422-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41928-025-01422-1 Anyone know where I can read it?

griffzhowl 1y ago
Got the link from google scholar: [PDF] https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-5494383/latest.pdf https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-5494383/latest.pdf
hnuser123456 1y ago
You can read it from that link if you're accessing from an institution subscribed to Nature or have Nature+.
- bjornsing 1y ago
  I asked Claude to dream it up instead. It was good.

nis0s 1y ago

It seems it will still use some digital process to encode and decode whatever is transmitted or received, I could be misreading it.

beardyw 1y ago

I have always thought that digital killed analogue prematurely and unnecessarily. I hope this works out.

iaw 1y ago
The potential of fully miniature vacuum tubes was never realized
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]

ninalanyon 1y ago

Surely mechanical clocks are digital in the sense that time is quantized into ticks by the escapement. The various gears do not rotate continuously.

Legend2440 1y ago
“Discrete” does not mean “digital”. Digital logic is the system of gates and switches that we use as an abstraction layer over analog circuits. AND, OR, XOR, etc. You certainly could build logic gates out of gears, and this would be a digital mechanical computer. But it’s not often done.
- ninalanyon 1y ago
  In common speech discrete and digital are pretty much synonyms. Also if we're going to be picky what you described is Boolean logic not digital.
- sherburt3 1y ago
  I thought digital meant you use your fingers. I use my fingers a lot with my computer

shakna 1y ago

Don't you just love how marketing has to slap a "AI" paragraph in there? The bigger deal is 200mW for 30Ghz. Which incidentally... Is probably never going to be nice for modern AI.