Unfortunately, HN itself is occasionally used for publicising crawling services that rely on underhand techniques that don't seem terribly different to the ones

Unfortunately, HN itself is occasionally used for publicising crawling services that rely on underhand techniques that don't seem terribly different to the ones here. I don't know if its because they operate in the service of capital rather than China, as here, but use of those methods in the former case seems to get more of a pass here.