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> "You know, YouTube is constantly working on new tools and experimenting with stuff," Beato says. "They're a best-in-class company, I've got nothing but good t

by lolc 1y ago

> "You know, YouTube is constantly working on new tools and experimenting with stuff," Beato says. "They're a best-in-class company, I've got nothing but good things to say. YouTube changed my life." My despondent brain auto-translated that to: "My livelihood depends on Youtube"

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
xkcd 2015 closer than you think due to the magical technology of money https://xkcd.com/2015/ https://xkcd.com/2015/
- deleted 1y ago
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- yogorenapan 1y ago
  Wow, that xkcd really scares me. I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream. It's definitely something that could realistically happen in the near future, maybe even mandated by the EU
  - Dilettante_ 1y ago
    Google People[1] vibes [1]https://qntm.org/perso https://qntm.org/perso
    - sixothree 1y ago
      What am I looking at? Is this a transcript of a real thread formatted in a flat manner? Or is this fiction?
      - Dilettante_ 1y ago
        What I want to say for fun is: "Oooohhhh who knooowsss?" But serious discussion demands the truth: It is fiction, in the style of a twitter thread.
        sixothree 1y ago
        Like the part about the birthdate is supposed to be humor maybe? But Google already knows how old you are. That's why I think it's funny that they claim they will now be "using AI" to determine if someone is an adult and able to watch certain youtube videos. Google already knows how old you are. It doesn't need a new technique to figure out that you're 11 years old or 39 years old. They're literally just pretending to not know this information.
lomase 1y ago
I mean is Rick Beato, he tries really hard to have the most polarizing opinion every single time.
- cma 1y ago
  What's the biggest example outside of his thumbnails?
  - corytheboyd 1y ago
    So much of the channel consisting of Hot Spicy Take content really turned me off from hearing anything else he has to say, which is unfortunate, because I liked his music theory videos when I was learning about that. Lots of very hateful, negative content too. It didn’t take me long to find the video “why this new artist sucks.” Another find, what I assume is an overblown small quibble turned into clickbait videos, was “this record label is trying to SILENCE me.” Maybe, somehow, these two things are related.
    - magicalhippo 1y ago
      > Lots of very hateful, negative content too. It didn’t take me long to find the video “why this new artist sucks.” If you're referring to his video I'm Sorry...This New Artist Completely Sucks[1], then it's a video about a fully AI generated "artist" he made using various AI tools. So it's not hateful against anyone. Though the title is a bit clickbait-y, I'll give you that. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKxNGFjyRv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKxNGFjyRv0
    - cgriswald 1y ago
      While I think he has his cranky old man moments and he isn’t for everyone, his titles are far more spicy and hateful than the actual content. He doesn’t just hate everything new because it is new. He also has plenty of videos loving on things old and new.
    - cma 1y ago
      > “why this new artist sucks.” That's about AI, not very polarizing at the level it's currently at. > Another find, what I assume is an overblown small quibble turned into clickbait videos, was “this record label is trying to SILENCE me.” That might be overblown, but it doesn't sound polarizing at all. OP was saying he always has the most polarizing opinions. If that last one is the vid I'm thinking of, the same record company has sent him hundreds of copyright strikes and he has to have a lawyer constantly fighting them for fair use. He does some stuff verging on listen-along reaction videos, but the strikes he talks about there are when he is interviewing the artists who made the songs and they play short snippits of them for reference while talking about the history of making them, thought process behind the songwriting, etc. I think it's not just automated content ID stuff where it claims the monetization, but the same firm for that label going after him over and over where 3 strikes removes his channel. The title or thumbnail might be overblown, probably the firm just earns a commission and he's dealing with a corporate machine that is scatter shotting against big videos with lots of views that have any of their sound rather than targetting him to silence something they don't want to get out, but I don't think the video was very polarizing.
conradfr 1y ago
And the other day he posted about the abusive copyright claims he has to deal with that cost him a lot of money and could maybe have his channels closed.
- JdeBP 1y ago
  Although xe lays the blame for those at the feet of Universal Music Group, not YouTube. Apparently, UMG simply refuses to learn from the experience of having thousands of copyright claims rejected on fair use grounds. It's almost as if there's a mindless robot submitting the claims to YouTube. Perish the thought! (-:
  - anigbrowl 1y ago
    Can you please stop doing that
BrenBarn 1y ago
Maybe that statement was just an AI edit and he actually said "YouTube is an evil scourge upon the planet".
roenxi 1y ago
I push back on the idea there is anything despondent there. If YouTube was enabling my lifestyle I'd be pretty happy about the situation and certainly not about to start piling public pressure on them. These companies get enough hate from roving bands of angry internet denizens. Touching up videos is bad but it is hardly material to break out the pitchforks compared to some of the political manoeuvres YouTube has been involved in.
- lolc 1y ago
  Oh I have no idea about the brain state of Beato. Just my brain read it that way automatically.
ThatMedicIsASpy 1y ago
As a consumer they are the most hostile platform to consume a video the way I want. Not the way they want me to. I am also required to use an adblocker to disable all shorts.
- reddalo 1y ago
  I also need to use ReVanced on my Android phone so I can hide all Shorts-related things.
- LauraMedia 1y ago
  As a creator, they are also the most hostile platform, randomly removing video with no point of contact for help or fully removing channels (with livelihoods behind them) because of "a system glitch" but again, not point of contact to get it fixed.
  - sixothree 1y ago
    Pretty much every creator I follow has complained about something being removed without any clear explanation or the ability to contact anyone and ask questions. Say what you want about Microsoft, but if I have a problem with something I've pretty much always ended up getting support for that problem. I think Google's lack of response adds to their "mystique". But it also creates superstitions since creators don't really understand the firm rules to follow. Regardless, it is one of the most dystopian things about modern society - the lack of accountability for their decisions.
    - normalaccess 1y ago
      YouTube is “riding a tiger,” and the moment creators realize they hold the real power, the game is up. I believe the platform purposely creates a fear of the unknown with intermittent reward–punishment cycles. Random rules enforcement, videos taken down, strikes, demonetization, throttling... The algorithm becomes a sort of deity that people try to appease and they turn into cultish devotees preforming endless rounds of strange rituals in hopes of "divine" monetization favor.
    - 1y ago
SoftTalker 1y ago
Beato is a musician and a producer. He just finds making YouTube videos an easier way to earn a living. He's said many times how frustrating it is as a producer to work with musicians.

by lolc 1y ago

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago

xkcd 2015 closer than you think due to the magical technology of money https://xkcd.com/2015/ https://xkcd.com/2015/

deleted 1y ago
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yogorenapan 1y ago
Wow, that xkcd really scares me. I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream. It's definitely something that could realistically happen in the near future, maybe even mandated by the EU
- Dilettante_ 1y ago
  Google People[1] vibes [1]https://qntm.org/perso https://qntm.org/perso
  - sixothree 1y ago
    What am I looking at? Is this a transcript of a real thread formatted in a flat manner? Or is this fiction?
    - Dilettante_ 1y ago
      What I want to say for fun is: "Oooohhhh who knooowsss?" But serious discussion demands the truth: It is fiction, in the style of a twitter thread.
      - sixothree 1y ago
        Like the part about the birthdate is supposed to be humor maybe? But Google already knows how old you are. That's why I think it's funny that they claim they will now be "using AI" to determine if someone is an adult and able to watch certain youtube videos. Google already knows how old you are. It doesn't need a new technique to figure out that you're 11 years old or 39 years old. They're literally just pretending to not know this information.

lomase 1y ago

I mean is Rick Beato, he tries really hard to have the most polarizing opinion every single time.

cma 1y ago
What's the biggest example outside of his thumbnails?
- corytheboyd 1y ago
  So much of the channel consisting of Hot Spicy Take content really turned me off from hearing anything else he has to say, which is unfortunate, because I liked his music theory videos when I was learning about that. Lots of very hateful, negative content too. It didn’t take me long to find the video “why this new artist sucks.” Another find, what I assume is an overblown small quibble turned into clickbait videos, was “this record label is trying to SILENCE me.” Maybe, somehow, these two things are related.
  - magicalhippo 1y ago
    > Lots of very hateful, negative content too. It didn’t take me long to find the video “why this new artist sucks.” If you're referring to his video I'm Sorry...This New Artist Completely Sucks[1], then it's a video about a fully AI generated "artist" he made using various AI tools. So it's not hateful against anyone. Though the title is a bit clickbait-y, I'll give you that. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKxNGFjyRv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKxNGFjyRv0
  - cgriswald 1y ago
    While I think he has his cranky old man moments and he isn’t for everyone, his titles are far more spicy and hateful than the actual content. He doesn’t just hate everything new because it is new. He also has plenty of videos loving on things old and new.
  - cma 1y ago
    > “why this new artist sucks.” That's about AI, not very polarizing at the level it's currently at. > Another find, what I assume is an overblown small quibble turned into clickbait videos, was “this record label is trying to SILENCE me.” That might be overblown, but it doesn't sound polarizing at all. OP was saying he always has the most polarizing opinions. If that last one is the vid I'm thinking of, the same record company has sent him hundreds of copyright strikes and he has to have a lawyer constantly fighting them for fair use. He does some stuff verging on listen-along reaction videos, but the strikes he talks about there are when he is interviewing the artists who made the songs and they play short snippits of them for reference while talking about the history of making them, thought process behind the songwriting, etc. I think it's not just automated content ID stuff where it claims the monetization, but the same firm for that label going after him over and over where 3 strikes removes his channel. The title or thumbnail might be overblown, probably the firm just earns a commission and he's dealing with a corporate machine that is scatter shotting against big videos with lots of views that have any of their sound rather than targetting him to silence something they don't want to get out, but I don't think the video was very polarizing.

conradfr 1y ago

And the other day he posted about the abusive copyright claims he has to deal with that cost him a lot of money and could maybe have his channels closed.

JdeBP 1y ago
Although xe lays the blame for those at the feet of Universal Music Group, not YouTube. Apparently, UMG simply refuses to learn from the experience of having thousands of copyright claims rejected on fair use grounds. It's almost as if there's a mindless robot submitting the claims to YouTube. Perish the thought! (-:
- anigbrowl 1y ago
  Can you please stop doing that

BrenBarn 1y ago

Maybe that statement was just an AI edit and he actually said "YouTube is an evil scourge upon the planet".

roenxi 1y ago

I push back on the idea there is anything despondent there. If YouTube was enabling my lifestyle I'd be pretty happy about the situation and certainly not about to start piling public pressure on them. These companies get enough hate from roving bands of angry internet denizens. Touching up videos is bad but it is hardly material to break out the pitchforks compared to some of the political manoeuvres YouTube has been involved in.

lolc 1y ago
Oh I have no idea about the brain state of Beato. Just my brain read it that way automatically.

ThatMedicIsASpy 1y ago

As a consumer they are the most hostile platform to consume a video the way I want. Not the way they want me to. I am also required to use an adblocker to disable all shorts.

reddalo 1y ago
I also need to use ReVanced on my Android phone so I can hide all Shorts-related things.
LauraMedia 1y ago
As a creator, they are also the most hostile platform, randomly removing video with no point of contact for help or fully removing channels (with livelihoods behind them) because of "a system glitch" but again, not point of contact to get it fixed.
- sixothree 1y ago
  Pretty much every creator I follow has complained about something being removed without any clear explanation or the ability to contact anyone and ask questions. Say what you want about Microsoft, but if I have a problem with something I've pretty much always ended up getting support for that problem. I think Google's lack of response adds to their "mystique". But it also creates superstitions since creators don't really understand the firm rules to follow. Regardless, it is one of the most dystopian things about modern society - the lack of accountability for their decisions.
  - normalaccess 1y ago
    YouTube is “riding a tiger,” and the moment creators realize they hold the real power, the game is up. I believe the platform purposely creates a fear of the unknown with intermittent reward–punishment cycles. Random rules enforcement, videos taken down, strikes, demonetization, throttling... The algorithm becomes a sort of deity that people try to appease and they turn into cultish devotees preforming endless rounds of strange rituals in hopes of "divine" monetization favor.
  - 1y ago

SoftTalker 1y ago

Beato is a musician and a producer. He just finds making YouTube videos an easier way to earn a living. He's said many times how frustrating it is as a producer to work with musicians.