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LLMs can't help much with assets?

schaefer 1y ago
But image generation and cloning a visual artist’s style is one of AI’s apparent strengths. So it’s interesting to think about what the gaps are between fulfilling a single prompt and completing a project.
- shortrounddev2 1y ago
  AI generated assets look like dogshit
  - 3036e4 1y ago
    Incidentally so do many cheap games.
risyachka 1y ago
This. You may as well buy a shooter game starter pack or whatever that can save you >1year of coding, no llm needed. Code is not a hard part. Making mechanics fun and good assets is what is hard and takes forever. Sure you can use llm to write a generic game, but its easier to find same game on github and just use that code, why would you write it again with llm.
- deadbabe 1y ago
  Why not just copy the mechanics of an existing fun game?
  - shortrounddev2 1y ago
    Many people do and then sell nothing
    - Jensson 1y ago
      Wargroove copied almost everything from advance wars and put it in a fantasy setting, yet it sold much more than most indie games. Copying most values and mechanics from another game wont make a massive hit but it doesn't sell nothing, people who like the mechanics a lot will buy it to play with them some more in a new game.
      - shortrounddev2 1y ago
        If you copy a nintendo-platform game which hasnt gotten any love in a long time, put effort into it, and sell it on PC, then yes, you can sell a lot. Harvest Moon hasn't had a good game in over a decade, which is why Stardew Valley was so successful. Similarly, Pokemon has been neglected for generations and there have been a few successful games in the genre, like coromon. But if you mean copying an already successful PC game with AI Slop assets and putting absolutely no thought into what makes the game good, then you probably should work in a field you actually care about instead
  - sdwr 1y ago
    If it's identical, you made a clone. If it's evenly slightly different, the design needs to be rethought. In a good game, the mechanics, assets, and game loop harmonize. Change one piece, and the balance shifts.

But image generation and cloning a visual artist’s style is one of AI’s apparent strengths. So it’s interesting to think about what the gaps are between fulfilling a single prompt and completing a project.

shortrounddev2 1y ago
AI generated assets look like dogshit
- 3036e4 1y ago
  Incidentally so do many cheap games.

risyachka 1y ago

This. You may as well buy a shooter game starter pack or whatever that can save you >1year of coding, no llm needed. Code is not a hard part. Making mechanics fun and good assets is what is hard and takes forever. Sure you can use llm to write a generic game, but its easier to find same game on github and just use that code, why would you write it again with llm.

deadbabe 1y ago
Why not just copy the mechanics of an existing fun game?
- shortrounddev2 1y ago
  Many people do and then sell nothing
  - Jensson 1y ago
    Wargroove copied almost everything from advance wars and put it in a fantasy setting, yet it sold much more than most indie games. Copying most values and mechanics from another game wont make a massive hit but it doesn't sell nothing, people who like the mechanics a lot will buy it to play with them some more in a new game.
    - shortrounddev2 1y ago
      If you copy a nintendo-platform game which hasnt gotten any love in a long time, put effort into it, and sell it on PC, then yes, you can sell a lot. Harvest Moon hasn't had a good game in over a decade, which is why Stardew Valley was so successful. Similarly, Pokemon has been neglected for generations and there have been a few successful games in the genre, like coromon. But if you mean copying an already successful PC game with AI Slop assets and putting absolutely no thought into what makes the game good, then you probably should work in a field you actually care about instead
- sdwr 1y ago
  If it's identical, you made a clone. If it's evenly slightly different, the design needs to be rethought. In a good game, the mechanics, assets, and game loop harmonize. Change one piece, and the balance shifts.